D&D (2024) Class spell lists and pact magic are back!

[Emberashh]

People abandoning it cause it’s not a new edition? That is some pretty tasty irony.

I had to check myself for internal bleeding because of all this delicious irony.

 

[CleverNickName]

I want in on this outrage.
Can I still abandon it, even though I never got aboard?

 

[mamba]

You say that like it's a bad thing...

there is a reason for that... the longer this playtest goes, the less interested in it I am.

 

[mamba]

People abandoning it cause it’s not a new edition? That is some pretty tasty irony.

I am looking around...

 

[TerraDave]

And thank the WotC for coming to their senses---or at least looking at the surveys.

Also, there are plenty of other changes. Weapon mastery is clearly the big one, but when all is said and done, there will be lots of differences. Right now its looking like they will mostly be for the better.

 

[Shardstone]

Between monk’s points still being short rest based, some features like channel divinity going from prof uses per day to 2 uses per day and recovering one on a short rest, and now getting confirmation that pact magic is coming back, the clear signal I’m getting is that the short rest haters are a vocal minority, and most of the 5e player base wants them to stay.

I'm not sure if that's a fair assessment of what's going on. The playtest isn't iterating ideas or going into detail about what works and what doesn't, just reverting back something completely if one component doesn't test well.

 

[Scribe]

I'm not sure if that's a fair assessment of what's going on. The playtest isn't iterating ideas or going into detail about what works and what doesn't, just reverting back something completely if one component doesn't test well.

To be fair, they are saying they will, but that is no actual guarantee that it will happen exactly how they state it will.

 

[Charlaquin]

I'm not sure if that's a fair assessment of what's going on. The playtest isn't iterating ideas or going into detail about what works and what doesn't, just reverting back something completely if one component doesn't test well.

They have in fact iterated on ideas. Just not the ones that score under 60% satisfaction.

 

[Shardstone]

They have in fact iterated on ideas. Just not the ones that score under 60% satisfaction.

...That's what I'm getting at.

I don't think this is going to be a productive discussion, so I'm just going to leave. I think a lot of people on this forum have a really smug attitude when it comes to the playtest survey results, and its getting very trying to talk past it.

 

[Horwath]

People abandoning it cause it’s not a new edition? That is some pretty tasty irony.

Why bother to buy a book if I can borrow it from someone for an hour and just "pencil in" the "new edition"?

as the changes go now, or better yet, the retraction of almost all, they might as well give PDF errata for 2€ and be done with it.