Cleave, Trip, and please tell me I'm sane.

[Dougal DeKree]

cleave and tripping

Well, you could also tell him that he needs the improved trip feat to achieve what he wanted to do - attack the tripped opponent. Actually this makes for a nice combo...tripping with the cleave-extra-attack and then having the follow-up due to improved trip.

Dougal DeKree, dripping gnomish illusionist (i used improved drip )

 

[Viktyr Gehrig]

It's not even unclear, as applied to a trip attack. You must deal damage that somehow makes somebody drop. Trip attacks never deal damage, they just let you make a trip check. You get an additional attack if you trip them, which might do damage, but arguably even if that damage kills them you don't get a cleave, b/c that damage didn't "drop" them.

The problem with this wording is it leaves it open for a trip triggered by the Knockdown feat to allow a Cleave attack. Then again, this also seems much more realistic than gaining a Cleave off of a regular trip attack.

 

[Vaxalon]

I would allow Knockdown to cleave, but not Trip.

Mainly so I can duplicate Sauron's mace tactics in FOTR...

 

[Kemrain]

2. Sure, you can try to trip the next person. Since you are cleaving with a trip, you only get to use a trip for the cleave.

Actually, this isn't such a bad bad idea... I might actually allow this, maybe. However, with great cleave and supreme cleave and whatnot, that gets pretty crazy. However, tripping is self limiting, because you have to make an opposed roll... Hmm... I think that I just might, maybe, allow this interpretation, but only if the opponents tripped are adjacent, not merely threatened by the tripper. What do you all think of this one?

Can you trip with whirlwind attack?

- Kemrain the Intrigued.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Can you trip with whirlwind attack?

Trip, Disarm, or - though it might prematurely end your Whirlwind - Grapple.

But no extra attack from Improved Trip while Whirlwinding.

-Hyp.