Clone Wars trailer leaked

I'm actually looking forward to this. The actual Clone Wars was glossed over too much in the movies in my opinion. Definately a period of time that could lend itselft to some excellent stories.
 

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Darth Shoju said:
I dunno, I really enjoyed all the over the top stuff. They've always hinted that guys like Yoda were incredibly powerful, so I thought it was cool to finally see what they could do.

I guess for me, Star Wars has never been about subtlety anyway. ;)
I only wish the Jedi had different fighting styles. Since Yoda was shown as being a master of telekinesis in ESB, it'd be awesome to see him use that to fight (possibly wielding his saber telekinetically while pushing his opponent about, all the while remaining stationary.
 

ImperialParadox said:
I'm actually looking forward to this. The actual Clone Wars was glossed over too much in the movies in my opinion. Definately a period of time that could lend itselft to some excellent stories.
But honestly, I liked the (rare) implications on the Clone Wars from the 1st Zahn trilogy better. The idea of clones on both sides, losing control of them. It had a some appeal to me.
And I don't feel so comfortable with the idea that it's the "good guys" (Jedi) that go with the cloning and lead them into a battle. I find the idea of creating sentient people for war morally questionable.
 

Mustrum_Ridcully said:
But honestly, I liked the (rare) implications on the Clone Wars from the 1st Zahn trilogy better. The idea of clones on both sides, losing control of them. It had a some appeal to me.
And I don't feel so comfortable with the idea that it's the "good guys" (Jedi) that go with the cloning and lead them into a battle. I find the idea of creating sentient people for war morally questionable.
Oh, granted, the "hints" of the Clone Wars found in the original trilogy and the Thrawn trilogy paint a much more interesting view of that period. IMHO, the Mandalorians would've been a much better foe for the Grand Army of the Republic than the droids.
 

I liked Tartakovsky's Clone Wars, and greatly prefer his style in traditional animation. I don't think it translates well into CGI.

I'm also just not that interested in the Clone Wars. Lucas has this thing with his movies... he keeps going backwards. Where are the new stories? What about the 17 years between Episodes III and IV? What about the fall of the Empire and the repercussions that presented? Plenty of fertile ground for stories. Instead, Lucas is... rehashing.
 

Mustrum_Ridcully said:
But honestly, I liked the (rare) implications on the Clone Wars from the 1st Zahn trilogy better. The idea of clones on both sides, losing control of them. It had a some appeal to me.
And I don't feel so comfortable with the idea that it's the "good guys" (Jedi) that go with the cloning and lead them into a battle. I find the idea of creating sentient people for war morally questionable.
The "Good guys" didn't make the clones. Palpatine had the whole process started long before the Seperatist movement got big enough to need an army to fight it. The Republic was maneuvered into a spot between a rock and a hard place where they had no choice but to accept the 'gift' of a clone army supposedly grown for them and start using it to fight the war that just happened to errupt at that exact time. The whole point of the Clone Wars (for Palpatine) was to make the Jedi's generals and shove them into positions where they would have to make morally gray choices (sacrifice 10 soldiers to save 100 innocents) and slowly either turn them dark or drive them nuts (like in the Clone Wars book Shatterpoint). Those who remained true to the Jedi would be weaker and fewer in the end, thus making it easier to destroy them after they grew to trust the clones around them.
 

GoodKingJayIII said:
What about the 17 years between Episodes III and IV? What about the fall of the Empire and the repercussions that presented? Plenty of fertile ground for stories. Instead, Lucas is... rehashing.

The Dark Times(i.e. between Ep III and IV) is the place where MUCH new stuff is actually coming. The Force Unleashed game/book/comic/everything is set in that era, and is essentially that time period's Shadows of the Empire. Also, the upcoming live-action TV series is set in that period.

As for post-Ep VI, I expect part of the reason its being left alone is due to the HEAVY amount of EU already covering it. While Lucas may not dictate his world by those lines, with the (somewhat) recent attempts to bring the parts of the universe together into something cohesive, its kind of counter-intuitive.
 

Phoenix8008 said:
The "Good guys" didn't make the clones. Palpatine had the whole process started long before the Seperatist movement got big enough to need an army to fight it. The Republic was maneuvered into a spot between a rock and a hard place where they had no choice but to accept the 'gift' of a clone army supposedly grown for them and start using it to fight the war that just happened to errupt at that exact time. The whole point of the Clone Wars (for Palpatine) was to make the Jedi's generals and shove them into positions where they would have to make morally gray choices (sacrifice 10 soldiers to save 100 innocents) and slowly either turn them dark or drive them nuts (like in the Clone Wars book Shatterpoint). Those who remained true to the Jedi would be weaker and fewer in the end, thus making it easier to destroy them after they grew to trust the clones around them.

There is, off course, a different solution. You can always surrender. It's not like the enemy was hell-bent on killing everyone. (In fact, we don't really know what they wanted to achieve. They were seperatists? Let them go away! Why force them to be member of the Republic, if this just results in a massive, intergalactic war). But I digress, I can live with the Republic not letting them go their merry way. it's what happens in the real world, too, and Star Wars is not trying to sell as an Utopian World.

But my gripe here is really with the way the "handing" of the clone troopers was done. There was no discussion whether they should accept them. We only seem to see the Jedi embracing their leadership role for the troopers and sending them out into a war zone. Maybe I a am expecting a little to much for, well, pop-corn cinema, but I think there could have been room for showing at least some reservations or doubts on the issue.
 

Mustrum_Ridcully said:
There is, off course, a different solution. You can always surrender. It's not like the enemy was hell-bent on killing everyone. (In fact, we don't really know what they wanted to achieve. They were seperatists? Let them go away! Why force them to be member of the Republic, if this just results in a massive, intergalactic war). But I digress, I can live with the Republic not letting them go their merry way. it's what happens in the real world, too, and Star Wars is not trying to sell as an Utopian World.

But my gripe here is really with the way the "handing" of the clone troopers was done. There was no discussion whether they should accept them. We only seem to see the Jedi embracing their leadership role for the troopers and sending them out into a war zone. Maybe I a am expecting a little to much for, well, pop-corn cinema, but I think there could have been room for showing at least some reservations or doubts on the issue.

Literally speaking, letting the Seperatists seceed could be considered an option. Until it was discovered that they were building a massive droid army. Droid armies aren't usually just for show. They were gonna kill somebody. Once some of the worlds decided to leave the Republic though, others would follow and soon after there would be no Republic. But practically speaking, no government is going to voluntarily reduce it's scope or power just because the people want it that way. After all, the people are stupid and not to be trusted with power. Only those in charge know how best to run the lives of everyone else.

It comes down to this: it was all part of the plan. The Jedi were servants of the Republic (re: Palpatine). So when Palpatine decides to use the army of clones to 'defend' the republic against the Seperatists and 'requests' that the Jedi assist in leading them, the Council has very little wiggle room to deny him. So the 'good guys' got ordered to lead the troops and they obeyed. I believe there was more discussion/dissatisfaction displayed by some of the Jedi within the Clone Wars books, but never shown much in the movies.
 

Ankh-Morpork Guard said:
The Dark Times(i.e. between Ep III and IV) is the place where MUCH new stuff is actually coming. The Force Unleashed game/book/comic/everything is set in that era, and is essentially that time period's Shadows of the Empire. Also, the upcoming live-action TV series is set in that period.

As for post-Ep VI, I expect part of the reason its being left alone is due to the HEAVY amount of EU already covering it. While Lucas may not dictate his world by those lines, with the (somewhat) recent attempts to bring the parts of the universe together into something cohesive, its kind of counter-intuitive.

I know about the Force Unleashed (I was ignoring it; specifically, I think Lucas would be better off doing a movie in this period), though didn't realize the live action show would be set during this period. That's good to know.

As for post-Ep VI, there's a simple solution to that: new characters, different adventures, new stories. Yes, there's a heavy amount of EU, but almost all of it revolves around the protagonists from the movie.
 

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