College Football: Bowls

RBM said:
In truth, the principle objective of the BCS was to match #1 vs. #2. That has happened. Where the controversy arises, and where the incessant tweaking occurs, is in the mechanisms for determining #'s 1 & 2.

Technically you are correct.

But is the system working if after nearly every year they make changes that would have altered the outcome of the previous season?

As an Alabama fan (and thus tired of seeing them lose winnable games),

My condolences. :p

I'm not too upset to see Auburn frozen out of the championship picture, but objectively, I have a hard time seeing how a team can go undefeated through the ninth toughest schedule in the nation, tougher than USC or Oklahoma's, and be outside looking in.

It's for no other reason than Auburn was ranked lower than either at the beginning of the season.
 

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wow, I thought the Badgers were going to make a great comeback and win that one. And I was so worried that Iowa would run out of time as they just let the final 30 seconds tick away without anything.

but the one thing theat has really annoyed me today are the sports announcers. ESPN has good ones, and it seems that the other networks have idiots. In the Iowa game that one guy who admited he was nitpicking...but just wouldn't let anything go and went on and on about things. He nmeeded to shut up. In some other game one announcer had obviously no idea what a yard actually was because he was always off by three or four. And one time he claimed a hit took place 6 years out of bounds, when it was more like 4 feet. You'd think with yard lines on the field their spacial awareness would be a bit better.
 

Excuse me for a moment, but I just needed to get something off my chest...

"Hey, Saban! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Loser!"

...thank you. Have a happy New Year.
 
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okay :\...I figured Iowa would win, Iowa's coach is really one of the most under rated coaches and he can take his good team and beat a better one.
 

Well my Horns beat Michigan tonight, one of the best BCS games I have ever seen. Makes it all the sweeter that Cal lost to a team Texas dominated on the road.
 

Ya, on that last Texas drive I actually was thinking Michigan needed to just let them score the TD so they could get the ball back. IT was obvious that last team that had the ball would win that one.

THe Fiesta Bowl is going as expected. Last two Fiesta Bowls were way better ;)
 


Krieg said:
I would say that it has done a poor job of that as well. Texas & Oklahoma in the Rose Bowl while Big Ten & Pac Ten champs are forced elsewhere? USC & Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl while the Canes & Gators play in Georgia?

The bowl tradition is already dead and from all objective standpoints the BCS has been a failure at it's "stated" mission.
What are you talking about? Oklahoma didn't play in the Rose Bowl. Michigan, the Big 10 champ, went there same as always. Oklahoma is going to the Orange, where the Big 12 champ -- and Big Eight champ before -- always goes.

If USC hadn't been the BCS' No. 1 ranked team, it would have gone to the Rose Bowl as the Pac 10 champ. It wasn't 'forced' anywhere -- it got a promotion to the national championship game.

Miami didn't have an automatic berth with the Orange Bowl. They were independent for several years, and played in lots of Orange and other Fla. citrus fruit bowls because the people who run those bowls knew that lots of local fans would travel to see the team play in close-by bowls, thus ensuring sell-outs. The Big East's auto berth is with the Fiesta, primarily because of the strength of Miami when the conference was formed. The ACC, Miami's conference now, would not have an auto berth in one of the BCS bowls without the existance of the BCS.

Florida is part of the SEC, a conference whose champion always plays in the Sugar Bowl. Georgia is a shorter trip than New Orleans for them. Plus, the Gators didn't win their conference, so they weren't going to the Sugar anyway.

People bitch and moan about the BCS taking a Rose Bowl berth away from Cal. It didn't. If there wasn't a BCS, USC would be playing in the Rose Bowl and Cal would still be going elsewhere.

And a few voters changing their votes in the AP and Coaches polls had nothing to do with Texas passing Cal in the BCS rankings. Cal was still ranked ahead of Texas in both polls. If you go back and look at the polls, Texas lost ground to Cal in both the AP and Coaches polls the week after Mack Brown made his plea for the voters to give Texas a shot at a BCS berth.

The fact is, if you do the math, the difference between Cal and Texas was the computer scores, based in part on strength of schedule. Texas had a much tougher schedule this year than Cal. Texas boosted its BCS ranking late in the year by convincingly beating a ranked Texas A&M team. Cal hurt its ranking by struggling to beat a weak, unranked Southern Miss team. As the Holiday Bowl showed, Cal was overrated by the AP and Coaches polls for most of the season. If they had played in the Big 12 South, they'd be no better than .500.
 
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Cal wasn't under rated that much. Texas Tech can give anyone fits, and were the worst team Cal could play with their weak secondary.
 

dagger said:
Well my Horns beat Michigan tonight, one of the best BCS games I have ever seen.
Sorry to change the subject slightly, but I want to remind everyone that my Titans swept dagger's Longhorns in Omaha last summer.

You may return to dissecting the bowl games at this time. Thank you for your attention.

:)
 

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