College Football: Bowls

[Krieg]

What are you talking about? Oklahoma didn't play in the Rose Bowl. Michigan, the Big 10 champ, went there same as always. Oklahoma is going to the Orange, where the Big 12 champ -- and Big Eight champ before -- always goes.

2003 Rose Bowl Okies vs Washington State. The BCS has been around for more than this year.

And a few voters changing their votes in the AP and Coaches polls had nothing to do with Texas passing Cal in the BCS rankings. Cal was still ranked ahead of Texas in both polls. If you go back and look at the polls, Texas lost ground to Cal in both the AP and Coaches polls the week after Mack Brown made his plea for the voters to give Texas a shot at a BCS berth.

Six voters dropped Cal from to 7th or lower on the coaches poll the last week of the season, the week before one of those voters had them 6th and everyone else had them higher. Texas was also moved up by several voters, including one who voted them #1 overall but who had previously voted them 5th. That point difference was directly responsible for dropping Cal in the BCS standing.

Your claim that Texas lost ground in the polls is inaccurate.

Yes it is very likely that Big12 coaches put the fiix in under the cover of anonymity to ensure their conference sibling a BCS bid & themselves their share of a larger bowl payoff. Even if the poll movement was entirely innocent, you still have a situation where there is a considerable conflict of interest for voters in the coaching poll

The fact is that the system as currently set up is no better than those preceding it. It allows media darlings & teams that can run the table in weak conferences an inside track to playing for a mythical national champion.

Well at least Pitt proved that the Big East deserves to keep their automatic bid. lol

 

[bolen]

As an Ole Miss alumn I have to love how LS (who) got beaten

Have fun at the dophins, Nick

 

[Crothian]

So, I see Auburn and USC winning the last two games giving us 3 undefeated teams by the years end.

 

[Krieg]

As an Ole Miss alumn I have to love how LS (who) got beaten

FWIW I can't help but think they made a huge mistake firing Cutcliffe.

The same goes for Indiana & DiNardo.

 

[bolen]

I agree that we should not have fired cutcliffe. The rumor I heard was that a couple of very rich alumni did not like him and they threatened to cutoff money if cutcliffe stayed.

However I will bet ya that he will be much happier at notre dame.

The way both MS and ND behaved this year shows that alumni have much too much say so in college atheletics

 

[Crothian]

it's all about the money....

 

[fett527]

I didn't get a chance to post over the weekend unfortunately.

I will just comment that I still think the BCS is crap and should be scrapped as it is. I reiterate the points that a consensus #1 and #2 has played once since its inception and that was only because the BUCKEYES and Canes were the only undefeated teams.

I thoroughly enjoyed the Lousiville and Boise game, it was a wild ride as expected.

Way to go Utah, I knew you wouldn't let us down and keep exposing the BCS system in all its glory. No way Pitt should have been there and Utah should have been playing Auburn at least.

I WANT A PLAYOFF!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Crothian]

There will never be a consensus 1 and 2, even in the OSU Miami game there were people who felt OSU did not deserve to be there becasue they got lucky to go undefeated. Even in a playoff, people will give excuses as to why such and such team didn't deserve to lose; we see it in the NFL.

I think thje BCS has done a fine job with pairing 1 and 2. I don't expect everyone to agree, and it was set up to make the tough choice between 3 or more qualified teams. But since it is "not the playoffs" that everyone wants, it has to fail no matter what. :\

The playoffs would still be better though.

 

[fett527]

I liked this article:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6783897/

 

[drothgery]

I think thje BCS has done a fine job with pairing 1 and 2. I don't expect everyone to agree, and it was set up to make the tough choice between 3 or more qualified teams.

Every time the BCS title game has left out the team that was #1 or #2 in both polls (and this has happened almost every year; Miami v. Ohio State is the only exception that comes to mind), the "wrong" team has gone on to lose the BCS title game in a particularly embarassing fashion while the "left out" team dominated their bowl game. I'd suggest this means the BCS hasn't done a good job at all; it's done a terrible job, and the only time it got the title game correct was when it was mind-bogglingly obvious who deserved to be there (a few nit-pickers nonwithstanding, if there are two -- and only two -- major conference unbeatens, it's obvious that they're #1 and #2).

The BCS has readjusted its formula every year, so they pretty clearly don't think the system works either. If they liked the results, they'd leave it alone from one year to the next.