Converting Greyhawk monsters

[freyar]

Hmm, I guess I can go with any living corporeal since Weapon Specialization will keep it to intelligent-enough types. And agreed to "any evil."

 

[Shade]

Updated.

 

[Cleon]

Updated.

I'd think they'd have skills as the base creature, not as if their racial HD become outsider HD, since unlike half-fiends they are turned into fiends, not born fiends.

They need fire resistance, probably increasing with HD.

What about the "jazzing up" with Fear and Infernal Weapon SAs I suggested earlier?

 

[Shade]

I'd think they'd have skills as the base creature, not as if their racial HD become outsider HD, since unlike half-fiends they are turned into fiends, not born fiends.

Good point.

They need fire resistance, probably increasing with HD.

Agreed.

What about the "jazzing up" with Fear and Infernal Weapon SAs I suggested earlier?

I like the infernal weapons, but not the fear.

 

[Cleon]

Good point.

I like the infernal weapons, but not the fear.

What resistance and magic boosts shall we give them then? It starts out pretty weak at 10% but (according to rumour) goes up to "not to fear fire of any type" with immunity to anything short of dragon's breath.

I would like to have the level/HD steps a bit wider than the Demonic Knights of Doom's 4-5th / 6th-7th / 8-10th / 11th+ level. How about basing it on the Fiendish Template's 1-3 HD/ 4-7 HD / 8-11 HD / 12+ HD?

Hit Dice Special Abilities
4-7 . Fire resistance 5, infernal weapons (+1 Evil* weapon?)
8-11. Fire resistance 10, infernal weapons (+2 Evil* weapon?)
12-15 Fire resistance 15, infernal weapons (+2 Evil* unholy weapon?)
16+ . Fire resistance 20, infernal weapons (+3 Evil* unholy wounding weapon?)

*Evil as in "A Fiendish Knight natural weapons, as well as any weapons it wields, are treated as evil-aligned for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction."

Should we change the name from "Infernal Weapons" to make it clearer that it's a property of the Knight and not the weapon? Something like "Fiendish Blows" of "Infernal Attacks".

I like the infernal weapons, but not the fear.

How about a racial bonus to Intimidate then?

 

[Shade]

What resistance and magic boosts shall we give them then? It starts out pretty weak at 10% but (according to rumour) goes up to "not to fear fire of any type" with immunity to anything short of dragon's breath.

I would like to have the level/HD steps a bit wider than the Demonic Knights of Doom's 4-5th / 6th-7th / 8-10th / 11th+ level. How about basing it on the Fiendish Template's 1-3 HD/ 4-7 HD / 8-11 HD / 12+ HD?

Hit Dice Special Abilities
4-7 . Fire resistance 5, infernal weapons (+1 Evil* weapon?)
8-11. Fire resistance 10, infernal weapons (+2 Evil* weapon?)
12-15 Fire resistance 15, infernal weapons (+2 Evil* unholy weapon?)
16+ . Fire resistance 20, infernal weapons (+3 Evil* unholy wounding weapon?)

*Evil as in "A Fiendish Knight natural weapons, as well as any weapons it wields, are treated as evil-aligned for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction."

You can drop "Evil" from the list past 12-15 since "An unholy weapon is imbued with unholy power. This power makes the weapon evil-aligned and thus bypasses the corresponding damage reduction."

Actually, I'd rather just list in the ability "Any weapon wielded by a fiend knight is treated as evil-aligned for purposes of overcoming damage reduction", and then list the table sans "Evil".

Should we change the name from "Infernal Weapons" to make it clearer that it's a property of the Knight and not the weapon? Something like "Fiendish Blows" of "Infernal Attacks".

"Infernal Attacks" works.

How about a racial bonus to Intimidate then?

Sure! Static value, or dynamic at same breaking points above?

 

[freyar]

I can agree to all the above suggestions and a static Intimidate bonus. If they want to get more Intimidating, they should spend ranks. Besides, a low-HD one is probably still pretty ugly.

 

[Shade]

Updated.

Suggested amount of static bonus on Intimidate? +2? +4?

 

[freyar]

+4, I guess.

 

[Cleon]

You can drop "Evil" from the list past 12-15 since "An unholy weapon is imbued with unholy power. This power makes the weapon evil-aligned and thus bypasses the corresponding damage reduction."

Actually, I'd rather just list in the ability "Any weapon wielded by a fiend knight is treated as evil-aligned for purposes of overcoming damage reduction", and then list the table sans "Evil".

I was intending to use the "Any weapon..." text in the ability rather than the table list, but left it there so I'd remember it when we get around to writing it up.

"Infernal Attacks" works.

It works, but it doesn't really charm me. Can we come up with anything better?

Sure! Static value, or dynamic at same breaking points above?

Not much bothered which. Dynamic would be, say, twice the enhancement bonus of Infernal Attacks (+2 for 4-7 HD, +4 for 8-15 HD, +6 for 16+), Static would probably be +4.

EDIT: After thinking it over, I prefer the Dynamic approach to the fixed one, since I imagine the more powerful Knights might have a more fearsome air about them. However, I'd not be that bothered if you want to go the other way.