Converting nonhuman deities “Complete Divine” style

[BOZ]

LOL

BOZ, any chance I could get a copy of that PDF?

i don't have it on this computer. i'll have to send it to you when i get home.

 

[BOZ]

Alzrius, I’ll need a way to send you that PDF. (hint hint)

Oh yes, took another look at Faiths and Pantheons… we can remove Callarduan Smoothhands, Deep Sashelas, Rillifane Rallathil, and Laduguer from the list of gods to work with.

 

[Alzrius]

Alzrius, I’ll need a way to send you that PDF. (hint hint)

*blinks* I hadn't realized EN World had disabled it's email functions. Huh. Well, it's easy enough to email me. I'm Alzrius at aol dot com.

 

[Alzrius]

I don’t know what happened with Sardior, but chances are I’ll have to leave him alone too.

What happened is he got his own little sub-section on the WotC website, and is very well fleshed-out. (I hear Io, in a fit of pique over Sardior's coming back into vogue while he (Io) got bumped down to Intermediate deity, deliberately snubbed Sardior from the Draconomicon).

I’m not sure of the status of Muamman Duathal of the dwarves, Nebelun of the gnomes, and Zinzerena of the drow – if they are still untouched, I can probably use them.

If I could ask, what's the nature of the uncertainty with Muamman and Nebelun?

About Zinzerena, things are understandably vague. The last place we saw her was the coverage she got in Dragon #298 (the author erroneously claimed she was new to that issue). She's a Hero Goddess according to that, which matches (IIRC) with what's presented in Monster Mythology. However, also IIRC, Demihuman Deities's entry for Lolth says that Lolth either slew her, or created the persona altogether, as some sort of experiment with gaining new worshippers among the drow (the former seems more true, due to circumstantial evidence such as Lolth's entry on this list). The problem is that this leaves us with the question of wondering if that's true for just Realmspace, or true for everywhere Zinzerena is worshipped (assuming she was a real being). I think the article in Dragon #298 proves she's still around on other worlds (since that article is for Greyhawk), but the cosmological paradigm is different in 3E, so it's harder to say.

Kaelthiere and Sixin will most likely be skipped, as so far as I know, they did not appear in D&D before Defenders of the Faith.

I knew I hadn't seen them before!

Oh, this was already done in 3E (but not 3.5E, not that it makes any real difference) but the new drow demigod Keptolo was introduced in that same article in Dragon #298.

 

[Alzrius]

I'm not sure if these would count as nonhuman gods or not, since they aren't human, but seem to primarily have human worshippers: what about Blizzard, Talon, and Vertigo, three demigods from the Primal Rage video game that were written up in Dragon #223?

 

[BOZ]

that is easy!

so, anyone else... know of anything i'm missing here? something i haven't though of? i'd like to begin working on this project this week.

 

[BOZ]

If I could ask, what's the nature of the uncertainty with Muamman and Nebelun?

they weren't featured in Faiths and Pantheons, unlike the rest of their respective racial gods. that's why i'd consider them up for grabs.

About Zinzerena, things are understandably vague...

do you think that article summed her up well enough to let her be? if not, then i think we can use her.

and FYI - even if a source claims that a god is dead, i still consider it fair game.

i might still work on Sardior, too, now that i think about it...

 

[Alzrius]

they weren't featured in Faiths and Pantheons, unlike the rest of their respective racial gods. that's why i'd consider them up for grabs.

Sounds good to me.

do you think that article summed her up well enough to let her be? if not, then i think we can use her.

It gave her a pretty nice write up. It gave the usual information (name, title, divine level, symbol, home plane, alignment, portfolio, worshipers, cleric alignments, domains, and favored weapon) followed by a paragraph describing her, another one offering up her dogma, one on how her worship is conducted, and one more about adventuring notes for her clerics.

So yeah, she seems pretty well covered. One interesting little tidbit was that Keptolo sponsored her to divinity, but she gained some of his power by a ruse, so he now hates her for that.

and FYI - even if a source claims that a god is dead, i still consider it fair game.

Looks like Maanzecorian will still get his due then.

i might still work on Sardior, too, now that i think about it...

Really? Given the depth of his article on the WotC website seemed to write him up quite well.

 

[BOZ]

ok, mail on its way to you!

It gave her a pretty nice write up... So yeah, she seems pretty well covered.

good enough for me! i will start a thread soon in the CC forums to talk about this.

Looks like Maanzecorian will still get his due then.

you got it! he got killed "off camera" anyway didn't he? or was that the para-elemental lord?

Really? Given the depth of his article on the WotC website seemed to write him up quite well.

stop playing games with my heart! i might just give him a draconomicon-style writeup though. of course, since he is the only dragon god left, i might not.

 

[Alzrius]

you got it! he got killed "off camera" anyway didn't he? or was that the para-elemental lord?

All of Tenebrous's victims died "off camera" except for Nekrotheptis Skorpios (and even that was in that little novelized DM section). The closest the PCs got to seeing Maanzecorian die was that they were at the terminus of a one-way gate when an illithid proxy of his came through and perished due to his god dying.

It's worth noting that that in the adventure Dawn of the Overmind the PCs meet the last aspect of Maanzecorian to exist, since it's managed to linger after his death.