Could we please have a non evil/ammoral pact for Warlocks? :)

[Oligopsony]

I'm fond of thinking of Good, cosmologically, as just as foreign and dangerous as Evil, so Good Warlocks seem perfectly sensible - and non-nice - to me.

I'm sure the Celestial Warlock will be one of the first fan projects out the door, so I'm unconcerned with whether Wizards does it or not.

 

[RigaMortus2]

As someone else mentioned, sometimes you need someone who is 'chosen' to do the dirty work... even if they are serving the greater good.

Hmmmm, sounds like a Favored Soul to me... Might need to wait a couple PHBs later for that one...

 

[RigaMortus2]

1) You clearly don't know what "emo" means, so I'd stop using it, were I you.

Or what? Are you going to beat him up? Call the "emo" police on him? Are the "powers that be" going to think ill of him and strike him down? LOL.

 

[Gloombunny]

Or what? Are you going to beat him up? Call the "emo" police on him? Are the "powers that be" going to think ill of him and strike him down? LOL.

No, he'll just look a little foolish. And apparently mhacdebhandia considers looking a little foolish to be generally undesirable.

 

[RigaMortus2]

This is why warlocks do not need angelic pacts to be good guys.

I don't know, using a built in ability named Soul Ruin doesn't seem like something a good person would use on another.

If they had good-themed pacts for Warlocks, I can see them renaming all the dark sounding abilities they get, to be more in theme with the goodness.

FWIW, I don't think a good-themed Warlock is a good idea IMO. Kinda goes against type. Plus you got to figure, this is WotC's imagining of what a Warlock is. Imagine them using the Warlock class from WoW. How do you explain a "good" WoW Warlock who can summon demons?

 

[RigaMortus2]

No, he'll just look a little foolish. And apparently mhacdebhandia considers looking a little foolish to be generally undesirable.

Oh, I see. He was being curtious. Heaven forbid someone should use a made up and ill-difined term (it's not even defined in the dictionary for goodness sake) that doesn't 100% completely agree with another person's interpretation of what "emo" means.

Heck, he should have used the term gish instead and seen what kind of reaction he got.

Some peeps (not naming names; mainly because I forget who it was and am too lazy to look back) needs to lighten up a bit... Tha is, if I were them . I think you get the gist (gish?) of what the poster was referring to when he used the word...

 

[The Ubbergeek]

Hum.. Warlocks have something chthulu like setting in churches...

When the prayers are useless against the horroirs that besiege your hearth.... You go look for a forgottern, creepy ancient tome sealed in the crypt....

 

[Asmor]

The Warlock class is about asking the cosmos "who is giving out free power?"

Warlocks: Panhandlers of the cosmos

 

[Asmor]

 

[resistor]

I haven't followed the 4e Warlock too closely, but in 3.5e I thought the Warlock made a very good class for bloodline magic users. In that context, a good-themed warlock makes just as much sense as an evil one. I recall seeing variants on the WotC boards for fey, angelic, and aberration (Cthulhu-esque) warlocks based on this principle.