Could you enhance/enchant a masterwork shirt like armor?

[Rystil Arden]

You don't need the CMA&A feat or the armor slot to craft Bracers of Armor.

I've got no problem with someone building Bracers of Armor into shirt form with the CWI feat, the Mage Armor spell, and a CL at least twice the bonus, with a 1.5x inaffinity cost.

Whether or not they're allowed to add armor special abilities would depend on whether the DM was using the Arms and Equipment Guide, with its otherwise nonexistent rule that Bracers can contain special abilities.

You're not making the shirt into magic armor with a +X enhancement bonus to a +0 armor bonus; you're making the shirt into a wondrous item that surrounds the wearer with an invisible but tangible field of force, granting him an armor bonus of +1 to +8, just as though he were wearing armor.

-Hyp.

I'd allow the robe that gave a field of force like the Bracers of Armour as a Wondrous Item (and no additional price for the slot because the robe slot can hold any effect without a penalty, as per its "various" slot affinity), but I wouldn't allow the A&EG rule to add on special abilities, at least unless they had the CMA&A feat. Also, I would allow "making the shirt into magic armor with a +X enhancement bonus to a +0 armor bonus" using CMA&A, as there is precedent for allowing a +X enhancement to a +0 bonus (Barkskin used on someone with no natural armour bonus of their own).

 

[Hypersmurf]

... but I wouldn't allow the A&EG rule to add on special abilities, at least unless they had the CMA&A feat.

From memory, A&EG requires the feat for armor special abilities on Bracers as well.

-Hyp.

 

[Rystil Arden]

From memory, A&EG requires the feat for armor special abilities on Bracers as well.

-Hyp.

Heh, that's what I get for making a ruling without ever reading the rule. At least it shows I'm on the same page with whoever wrote that sidebar.

 

[IamTheTest]

Hello, Hawaiian shirt +1, axe-block... I'll be the toughest geek on the block.

Like a kick-ass Alton Brown.

I love AB. I too would pay the cost for that shirt...or even a t-shirt that said that.

 

[dcollins]

Could you enhance/enchant a masterwork shirt like armor?

No, shirts are not armor.

 

[RuminDange]

For the purpose of the spell, though.

If you consider normal clothing to be armor with no AC bonus under all circumstances, then you end up with naked monks.

"When wearing armor, using a shield, or carrying a medium or heavy load, a monk loses her AC bonus, as well as her fast movement and flurry of blows abilities."

-Hyp.

True. But if you consider the spell used in the enhancement process to be Magical Vestments instead of Mage Armor, just why couldn't someone make a shirt that granted an armor bonus even though the shirt/clothing itself grants no armor bonus nor is armor? Would there really be a down side doing so?

RD

 

[dcollins]

There is no "spell used in the enhancement process". Crafting magic armor & weapons is not based on any spell prerequisite.

 

[RuminDange]

There is no "spell used in the enhancement process". Crafting magic armor & weapons is not based on any spell prerequisite.

Granted for Arms and Armor there isn't for the base plus, but there is when crafting wonderous items, such as bracers, which technically this would fall under.

RD

 

[werk]

Well, then you have wizards/sorcerors/monks walking around in full-plate that just happens to be made of cotton

Just like in Neverwinter Nights...I'll allow it! Uses up the armor slot, works like armor, does not technically count as armor or require feats to wear, no base armor bonus. Treat it like a robe.

Robe of the archmagi gives +5 AB to AC, and it's not armor, so I'd think it's already demonstrated by example in core.

 

[Demoquin]

Gotta Love the NWN Monk robes everyone and their mothers are taking 1 lvl in monk or just using umd to get those that nice bonus