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Courtesy in Restaurants

JoeBlank said:
I wouldn't say I make an active point of choosing not to answer the phone, but close to it. I just don't jump and run to the phone when I hear it ring.
I don't answer the 'phone to withheld number, unless I am expecting a specific call.


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DaveStebbins said:
I am the opposite of those who don't have a cell phone. I don't have a land line.
Me too. Although I may have to get one soon so I can have broadband at home. I may not bother to connect an actual 'phone to it though.


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was said:
-However, the other customers were extremely rude. If they lacked the courage to come over and politely ask you not to take calls, or to have the waiter do it for them, then I think they should have kept quiet about it. As was stated earlier, this passive-aggressive nonsense was extremely rude.
From my POV, they're showing remarkable restraint. Had I been there, I would have fed the wife her cell, hypothetically.

Yeah, I better enroll yet another anger management class.
 



It's not rude to answer your phone if it's not rude to have a conversation at the table with others. However, it's rude to continue on unless it's important, and it's rude for the person on the other end of the line to not let you go if you're busy at dinner (I see this a lot).

As far as conversing about another conversation, it can be rude to easedrop, but sometimes it can't be helped, but it's rude to talk about someone within earshot of them when they aren't ment to hear it.
 

Bront said:
As far as conversing about another conversation, it can be rude to easedrop, but sometimes it can't be helped, but it's rude to talk about someone within earshot of them when they aren't ment to hear it.
That's what Blackberry are for?
 

IMO she was not being rude vis-a-vis the diners at the other table, assuming she was talking at a normal voice level. They OTOH were being rude slagging her off within earshot.
 

Personally, I find it fairly rude and disruptive to use them in places like restaurants and trains/subways, and any other location where people are packed a little closer together than they normally are.

For me, it's not just the noise level I find disruptive, but the disjointedness of it. When you overhear a (normal) conversation at a table near you, it still has a sense of flow to it. Kind of like a stream, if you will. In fact, next time you're in a public area close your eyes, it's actually kind of relaxing (to me, anyway) to listen to. However, with a cell phone that just isn't there, and it's very jarring. It's much the same as if one person in a group nearby is talking louder and so you only hear his braying laugh and terrible jokes. Also, I've found it's much more difficult to "tune out" these examples of disjointed conversation.

Another reason I find it rude may be because I wasn't brought up in a larger city. Sure, Syracuse isn't small, it's certainly city-size. It's no Buffalo or Albany though, and certainly not like New York City, with people in very close confines much of the time. It's not particularly difficult to find a private place to have a conversation here... it's probably harder to find a warm place. :) Privacy is the real point here though - I've heard things I've never wanted to know about people because they're taking calls from doctors or ex's or what not.

Finally, I think my final point is importance. Is it really critical that you talk to your friend right this minute? In most cases no, it isn't. If he or she is dying or in trouble, yes, that's important. If you're just playing catch-up, that can wait. That's why they have voice mail.

All my opinions aside though, I think the reality of the situation is very much the same as the thread that spawned this one. Whether it's kids or cell phones, or anything else, it's not one-hundred percent of people that have them that cause the problem. In fact, it's probably a minority. And it's not the object itself that causes exasperation really, but the people who lack consideration for anyone but themselves.

So was your wife wrong? Maybe, maybe not. None of use were there and it really depends on a person's personal views anyway.

Passive-aggressiveness on the other hand is one of my biggest pet peeves. If something is bothering you, you either grin and bear it, you leave the area, you distract yourself, or you fix whatever is bothering you. For the latter, that would be talking to the person bothering you. That passive-aggressive whiny crap gets on my nerves every time.
 

Last night, I was out at a nice restaraunt with my family, and some kids a few tables down were playing a cell phone game. The volume was very loud, and the same annoying midi music was overpowering the conversation for over 20 minutes. Finally I went over and asked them to turn the volume down. It lasted for all of 5 minutes, then they started playing again.

I don't mind people who talk on their cell phones, as long as they do it in a normal tone of voice. People who feel the need to shout into their cell phone should restrain themselves from doing so in a public facility. Personally, if I need to talk on my phone at a restaraunt, I'll step outside or into the bathroom to do so.
 

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