Cruel Doubt - D&D = drug use

[pogre]

My wife was watching a Lifetime Network movie called Cruel Doubt or something like that. A kid planned the murder of his parents. The motive? So he could get money to buy drugs to play D&D. They must be using the BoVD

Good Lord, I hate Lifetime anyway - this just adds fuel to the fire.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

I think my mother was watching this...because she mentioned it to me. I laughed...a lot. It was so horribly pathetic.
Though...this is coming from the "Men that beat up women" channel...

 

[The Blue Elf]

I remember an incident at a Con that I gone too that had happen before some kids playing L.A.R.P got carried away playing the game there was a fight the police came and arrested the kids.The Police found Mary Jane laying on the ground this was a shocking incident that had to be kept on a lay low.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

I remember an incident at a Con that I gone too that had happen before some kids playing L.A.R.P got carried away playing the game there was a fight the police came and arrested the kids.The Police found Mary Jane laying on the ground this was a shocking incident that had to be kept on a lay low.

And where was Spiderman during all this?


...sorry, I had to.

 

[Darrin Drader]

[PREACHY MODE]
Misguided people will try to enhance their experience of virtually anything through the use of illegal substances and alcohol, whether it be sex, comic books, music, movies, video games, or roleplaying games. Some of those drugs alter your perceptions, priorities, and even your morality to the point where you will engage in reprehensible acts that you normally wouldn't consider if your mind weren't under the effects of the drug. I don't find this fuel for the fire against RPGs, but rather a sad commentary on the human condition. While I agree that some drugs are more harmful than others, but just look at all the lives that have been ruined as the result of heroin, crack, and LSD, and certain other drugs.
[/PREACHY MODE]

 

[Orius]

I think my mother was watching this...because she mentioned it to me. I laughed...a lot. It was so horribly pathetic.
Though...this is coming from the "Men that beat up women" channel...

Lifetime is a huge waste of cable. Looks like they're dreging up more '80s urban legends to make yet another God-awful movie that amounts to a shameful waste of videotape. Lifetime is a reason that I'm glad I don't have cable.

 

[LightPhoenix]

Lifetime is a huge waste of cable. Looks like they're dreging up more '80s urban legends to make yet another God-awful movie that amounts to a shameful waste of videotape. Lifetime is a reason that I'm glad I don't have cable.

Yeah, but you've got The History Channel, Animal Planet, Food Network... all sorts of educational stuff. Lots of inspiration for all sorts of roleplaying. Well, maybe not Food Network... but cooking is cool.

 

[Olive]

[PREACHY MODE]
Misguided people will try to enhance their experience of virtually anything through the use of illegal substances and alcohol, whether it be sex, comic books, music, movies, video games, or roleplaying games. Some of those drugs alter your perceptions, priorities, and even your morality to the point where you will engage in reprehensible acts that you normally wouldn't consider if your mind weren't under the effects of the drug. I don't find this fuel for the fire against RPGs, but rather a sad commentary on the human condition. While I agree that some drugs are more harmful than others, but just look at all the lives that have been ruined as the result of heroin, crack, and LSD, and certain other drugs.
[/PREACHY MODE]

Darrin, this is completely irrelevnt. Sure people take drugs to do almost everything. However you don't need to take drugs to game, I suspect most people don't take drugs to game, and any kinda implication on the part of some US cable channel that people do need drugs to game is stupid.

your paragraph makes it sound like it's logical for Lifetime to make a movie conecting drugs and gaming because some people might very well combine the two.

For what it's worth, I've known lots of people who took lots of drugs and managed to not run their lives or even do them any real harm. And I've known people to take not as many drugs and completely screw themselves. But I don't see any need to conect the two.

 

[Darrin Drader]

Darrin, this is completely irrelevnt. Sure people take drugs to do almost everything. However you don't need to take drugs to game, I suspect most people don't take drugs to game, and any kinda implication on the part of some US cable channel that people do need drugs to game is stupid.

your paragraph makes it sound like it's logical for Lifetime to make a movie conecting drugs and gaming because some people might very well combine the two.

No, that isn't at all what I said. I said that misguided people will try to enhance certain experiences with drugs. I am not saying that people need to take drugs to game, I'm saying that some people will find a way to work drugs into some of their favorite activities. At that point, if they go psycho, its because of the drugs, or a mental problem, not gaming.

For what it's worth, I've known lots of people who took lots of drugs and managed to not run their lives or even do them any real harm. And I've known people to take not as many drugs and completely screw themselves. But I don't see any need to conect the two.

Same here. I'm not talking about the ones who can keep it under control. I'm talking about the ones that probably start out with some sort of problem and then make it worse with drugs.

I'm not saying that Lifetime is right to take a big old dump all over our hobby - far from it. What I am saying is that it is true that there have been cases where people have combined drugs and gaming and had results that weren't desirable. But the same is true about the other subjects I listed as well - most notably music. Frankly I'd like to see one of the stations that airs derogatory and misinformed information about gaming get sued for maliciously trying to damage the RPG business, I don't think it will ever happen.

The bottom line for me is that for every one of these, just think of the good free publicity the hobby gets - like the GE commercial. For every D&D movie, just remember the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Its not about outrage, but balance.

 

[pogre]

My wife taped some of it for me - there's an awesome scene where a detective is yelling at the kid:

Kid: We just wanted money for the game

Detective in his face: This isn't D&D. This real life. The fantasy is over kid!

It really goes downhill from there. Brought back some great memories - Where's my Monsters and Mazes tape?

BTW - the movie also answers the burning question: I wonder what Ed Asner is up to these days?

As for the mini-debate above let me just say - the movie makes it seem necessary to take drugs to play D&D - not as an enhancing experience. Thus, the title of my thread. Further, the movie makes it seem like the addiction that leads to drug use is D&D, not vice versa.

It is all funny to me, but I feel sorry for the kid who is trying to convince Mom and Dad that D&D is O.K.