D&D (2024) D&D 2024 PHB errata thread +

[pukunui]

For the purposes of this spell, the delineation between living and dead would serve as a fine starting point: raw materials must be dead. Want wood? You gotta chop the trees down first.

The problem there is that the spell description uses a “copse of trees” as an example. You can turn living trees into a bridge.

I’d be happy to house rule that it has to be timber rather than living trees but I wouldn’t expect WotC to errata that part of the spell.

 

[Lanefan]

The problem there is that the spell description uses a “copse of trees” as an example. You can turn living trees into a bridge.

(facepalm)

I’d be happy to house rule that it has to be timber rather than living trees but I wouldn’t expect WotC to errata that part of the spell.

I'd have expected them to write it as non-living matter to begin with. Oh well...

 

[pukunui]

(facepalm)

I'd have expected them to write it as non-living matter to begin with. Oh well...

Copse of trees was an example in the 2014 version too. But yeah - it ought to be non-living raw materials that aren’t already part of a construction or something.

 

[Mistwell]

Currently the Most Evil Spell in D&D:
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Fabricate [ Pg 271 PHB.24 ]
Level 4 Transmutation( Wizard )
Casting Time: 10 minutes
Range: 120 feet
Components: V, S
Duration: Instantaneous

You convert raw materials into products of the same
material.

Creatures and magic items can't be created by
this spell. You also can't use it to create items that
require a high degree of skill -- such as weapons and
armor -- unless you have proficiency with the type of
Artisan's Tools used to craft such objects.


Artisan's Tools:
Cook's Utensils (1 GP) [ Pg 220 PHB.24 ]
Craft: Rations


A cannibal wizard with Fabricate and Cook's Utensils can
now kill anything in the game. As long as the wizard gets
within 120ft and chants for 10 minutes.

That ancient red dragon... poof... dragon heart rations
An annoying quickling..... poof... quickling quiche

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How about a Dwarven Demolition Team
A group of dwarves walk up to a castle wall and begin chanting.
An entire section of a cave/castle/bridge disappears.

That magic item you have... well it just turned into an iron
bar. The spell doesn't say you can't change a creature or
magical item into something useless, it just says you can't
make a creature or magical item; meaning the spell disenchants
magical items since the components can't be magical.

This spell needs an errata.

"You can fabricate a Large or smaller object (contained within a 10-foot Cube or eight connected 5-foot Cubes)"

 

[Krachek]

I wonder how many errata they will need to do when most of the games will be run by an AI DM?

 

[TexasToaster]

“We wants it, we needs it. Must have the precious. They stole it from us.
Sneaky little hobbitses. Wicked, tricksy, false!

• No. Not Master!
• Yes, precious, false! They will cheat you, hurt you, lie.
• Master is my friend.
• You don't have any friends; nobody likes you!”

See, now you finally understand why Hobbitses are evil! They hide and
want to turn you into rations to feed dwarves.

I am not hearing anyone saying a couple of extra sentences would be a bad thing, regardless of how silly the examples might have been.

A definition of what a raw material is would be nice. I can't find any reason why the dwarf demolition team wouldn't work though.

Is a rock covered in moss able to stop fabricate from working on the rock it is on? How "alive" would something need to be for it not to work?

 

[TexasToaster]

Oh oh, new evil way to use it..... turn the non-living material inside a creature into a jagged kidney stone... DM tells you that you have advantage on all attacks for the next 6 hours.

 

[Lanefan]

Oh oh, new evil way to use it..... turn the non-living material inside a creature into a jagged kidney stone... DM tells you that you have advantage on all attacks for the next 6 hours.

Don't you need line of sight to the material you're using? If it's inside a creature, you don't have LoS.

 

[TexasToaster]

Anyone catch that you can make a Warlock with 2 stats at 30?

Use your 10 invocations to get 20 origin feats by the time you are level 20. You now have a total of like 26 total feats. The cult you are in decides to make you a living god; casting 26 Wish Spells to allow you to change any feat into another you qualify for...... You can now have 26 * 40 hps from the Epic Feat. Your Warlock can now have 1000+ hps with 2 stats at 30s. Now that is an evil warlock cult boss.

 

[TexasToaster]

Very good point Lanefan..... That is why you get x-ray glasses before you do something like that.
It says nowhere that you can't use something to see through a substance. That is a simple magic thing you work out before you try it.

If you need a better D&D example, a dragon swallows a person or creature you have linked vision with. You can see inside the stomach. Now if the dragon doesn't know you are there and the person/creature can stay alive for 10 minutes, you can see. I know there are no X-ray devices you can wield, but what is to say someone doesn't make something that can see through materials or through something that is swallowed.

Evil wizards are going to misbehave in 5.24.... This is why Crawford wanted all fighters to go "Thundar the Barbarian" on them.