D&D (2024) D&D 2024 PHB errata thread +

[Nefermandias]

Maybe, but removing the words from 2014 was horrible.

A tree has 2 million genes and a human was 20,000 genes. If you think a tree can be transmuted, being 100 times more complicated than a human, then I am confused about why that would be allowed.... what happens if the humanoid was a tree-based lifeform like a treant?

My point being is that RaW does not specify what "raw" materials is. A cannibal would also differ as to the definition of someone being a material if it was 5 seconds before dying and 5 seconds after.

If a dwarf sees a stack of marble blocks 20 feet high, does he not see each of the blocks as a component instead of a wall? There is nothing in the wording to stop someone from arguing with the DM "RaW says I can!"

The removal of key words in locations makes me think some of the developers can't read or have never played the game.

While I do agree that the wording should provide the DM with a certain degree of protection against rules lawyering, I believe it would be more effective to focus on teaching players on the importance of RAI.

There's so much pedantry we can tolerate before the game becomes unplayable.

 

[TexasToaster]

Rules Lawyering can be annoying, but why is there no Definition of Raw Material when the term is used 400+ times in the Rule Book? Any term used so frequently should have something to verify we all know what it means. It is like not defining manslaughter and murder and having people in a trial using the terms interchangeably.

You reminded me of Al Gore in Futurama... "I am a 9th level Politician!" lol

 

[Nefermandias]

Rules Lawyering can be annoying, but why is there no Definition of Raw Material when the term is used 400+ times in the Rule Book? Any term used so frequently should have something to verify we all know what it means. It is like not defining manslaughter and murder and having people in a trial using the terms interchangeably.

You reminded me of Al Gore in Futurama... "I am a 9th level Politician!" lol

As I said in the post you have just quoted, I am not disagreeing with you.

Sorry, don't know the reference. I think it's supposed to be something funny though?

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I'm chuckling at a spell component (and not because it's a gag, like most of them are).

True Seeing's Material Component is "25gp worth of Powdered Mushroom, which the spell consumes".

How much mushroom powder do you think 25 GOLD would buy? I'd guess about 10-12 potato sacks worth, or something in the realm of 500 pounds. You'd need a small wagon.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

I'm chuckling at a spell component (and not because it's a gag, like most of them are).

True Seeing's Material Component is "25gp worth of Powdered Mushroom, which the spell consumes".

How much mushroom powder do you think 25 GOLD would buy? I'd guess about 10-12 potato sacks worth, or something in the realm of 500 pounds. You'd need a small wagon.

You buy the wrong mushrooms.

 

[Gorck]

I'm chuckling at a spell component (and not because it's a gag, like most of them are).

True Seeing's Material Component is "25gp worth of Powdered Mushroom, which the spell consumes".

How much mushroom powder do you think 25 GOLD would buy? I'd guess about 10-12 potato sacks worth, or something in the realm of 500 pounds. You'd need a small wagon.

Truffles are a type of mushroom and they are not inexpensive.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

Truffles are a type of mushroom and they are not inexpensive.

You have a point, but then, it ought to say "truffles". It's not like they don't make other, more complex distinctions in the Material Components text.

At any rate, I just thought it was amusing.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

You buy the wrong mushrooms.

Funny.

The thing is, in D&D, 25gp might not be a lot of money for a PC, but for a "normal" person, it's a fortune. It's about four MONTHS work for a laborer, or two WEEKS work for a skilled hireling.

How many mushrooms can an unskilled hireling pick in four months?

Now, of course, D&D economy is utterly borked, but it's still amusing.

That's not even including that In the Underdark, mushrooms are the size of trees.

Either way, the spell either consumes some really incredibly expensive mushrooms, or it consumes a very large quantity of mushrooms, or both.

 

[Pauln6]

Funny.

The thing is, in D&D, 25gp might not be a lot of money for a PC, but for a "normal" person, it's a fortune. It's about four MONTHS work for a laborer, or two WEEKS work for a skilled hireling.

How many mushrooms can an unskilled hireling pick in four months?

Now, of course, D&D economy is utterly borked, but it's still amusing.

That's not even including that In the Underdark, mushrooms are the size of trees.

Either way, the spell either consumes some really incredibly expensive mushrooms, or it consumes a very large quantity of mushrooms, or both.

The Implication is clear that these are magic mushrooms. The wizard is hallucinating so bad that they hallucinate things as they truly are.

 

[Chaltab]

The Implication is clear that these are magic mushrooms. The wizard is hallucinating so bad that they hallucinate things as they truly are.

Upcast it to 9th and you see the dice rolls and the coffee stains on your character sheet