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D&D and the rising pandemic


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billd91

Hobbit on Quest
And, of course, two people looking out of windows in two different places might get different results. The one in an overcast area will see a different colour than the one on a clear day.
And then there’s partly cloudy ambiguity. “Well, it looks kinda blue-gray.”
 



Hussar

Legend
Really, the conspiracy stuff has been bubbling up for about a decade now. Remember when we had conspiracies about the US president's nationality? People actually believe that. How many investigations of Hillary Clinton that turn up nothing and we still get sizable numbers of "Lock Her Up" and "I just don't trust her" even today. Anti-vaxxing that is based on science that has been long debunked.

Thing is, it doesn't matter how much proof you bring to the table. It doesn't matter how rational your arguments are. People are predisposed to believing stuff and poking holes in that is like trying to stick pins in concrete.

We've had decades of the erosion of public trust in science, expertise has been treated as clueless elitism. And this has been going on since the 80's. It's not really surprising, in hindsight, to see how much of an impact this has had.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
Really, the conspiracy stuff has been bubbling up for about a decade now. Remember when we had conspiracies about the US president's nationality? People actually believe that. How many investigations of Hillary Clinton that turn up nothing and we still get sizable numbers of "Lock Her Up" and "I just don't trust her" even today. Anti-vaxxing that is based on science that has been long debunked.

Thing is, it doesn't matter how much proof you bring to the table. It doesn't matter how rational your arguments are. People are predisposed to believing stuff and poking holes in that is like trying to stick pins in concrete.

We've had decades of the erosion of public trust in science, expertise has been treated as clueless elitism. And this has been going on since the 80's. It's not really surprising, in hindsight, to see how much of an impact this has had.

It's the interwebs. Basically you can't use facts on people's beliefs. In extreme cases even if they can see what's going on with their own eyes.

Getting that South African and English variety in qurantine now.

Covid-19: UK variant raises risk of community transmission - Baker

As expected. Still using the Covid app but we're basically role playing the old normal for the most part.

Trying to talk the family into trying something new for the camping trip. No tourists as such.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Remember when we had conspiracies about the US president's nationality? People actually believe that.

Some do, and others don't.

You cannot awaken someone who is not asleep - a great many knew full well that it was false, but repeated the narrative because it served their purposes. Repeating that narrative means that most normal folks feel the need to dispute the facts. But the person knows it is a lie, so the facts were not relevant, making it largely invulnerable armor.

You cannot reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - the people who did believe that, despite evidence, are holding that position because it resonates with their fears or preferred worldview. You cannot address their position without approaching the emotional underpinnings. And you generally cannot do that with a stranger.
 


Janx

Hero
Some do, and others don't.

You cannot awaken someone who is not asleep - a great many knew full well that it was false, but repeated the narrative because it served their purposes. Repeating that narrative means that most normal folks feel the need to dispute the facts. But the person knows it is a lie, so the facts were not relevant, making it largely invulnerable armor.

You cannot reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - the people who did believe that, despite evidence, are holding that position because it resonates with their fears or preferred worldview. You cannot address their position without approaching the emotional underpinnings. And you generally cannot do that with a stranger.
this is pretty much a viral infection of the mind.
 

Bit of a rough start of the week for me. Got called at 2 in the middle of the night. Whenever you get a call like that, it can't be good news, and it wasn't. My dad had been rushed to the hospital and had to under go immediate surgery for a cerebral haemorrhage (bleeding in the brain). Apparently he was able to call the emergency number, so they got to him in time. Several horrible hours later me and my sister got word that the operation was a success.

Due to Corona however, visiting someone in the hospital is a bit different now. Only 1 visitor is allowed at a time, and you must be in good health (no cough) and be wearing a mask obviously. Due to all the hospitals being overloaded with covid patients now, he had to be relocated to a hospital in a different city, when seconds can be a matter of life and death. The hospitals also have to move entire departments around, just to keep covid patients separated.

I think I mentioned a while ago how covid can cause deaths among regular patients simply due to delays. I never thought I'd be thrown into just that kind of situation with a member of my family.

He is doing well though, so that's a relief. They got to him in time, and immediately got him into surgery. The hospital is specialized in neuro surgery, so that's a blessing.
 
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Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Well, it appears that the other shoe has finally dropped in Japan. Skyrocketing infection rates, hospitals heading to being overwhelmed. This is what everyone has been bracing for for the past year. Here's to hoping.

The new, more infectious strain first seen in the UK?
 

Eltab

Lord of the Hidden Layer
Bit of a rough start of the week for me. Got called at 2 in the middle of the night. Whenever you get a call like that, it can't be good news, and it wasn't. My dad had been rushed to the hospital and had to under go immediate surgery for a cerebral haemorrhage (bleeding in the brain). Apparently he was able to call the emergency number, so they got to him in time. Several horrible hours later me and my sister got word that the operation was a success.

Due to Corona however, visiting someone in the hospital is a bit different now. Only 1 visitor is allowed at a time, and you must be in good health (no cough) and be wearing a mask obviously. Due to all the hospitals being overloaded with covid patients now, he had to be relocated to a hospital in a different city, when second can be a matter of life and death. The hospitals also have to move entire departments around, just to keep covid patients separated.

I think I mentioned a while ago how covid can cause deaths among regular patients simply due to delays. I never thought I'd be thrown into just that kind of situation with a member of my family.

He is doing well though, so that's a relief. They got to him in time, and immediately got him into surgery. The hospital is specialized in neuro surgery, so that's a blessing.
I really want to give this post multiple emojis, ending with a thumbs-up.

Hope your dad recovers soon.
 


Dannyalcatraz

Schmoderator
Staff member
Tangential to the news about the pandemic, Moderna is trying to develop vaccines for Nipah, HIV and the seasonal flu using the mRNA technique.

 

Hussar

Legend
The new, more infectious strain first seen in the UK?
Ours apparently came from Brazil. But, no, it's more the fact that the government wanted business to get back into swing, brought out some travel incentives for domestic travel, and it blew up in their faces. They're reading the emergency powers acts for most of the country now. Not that that holds a lot of power in Japan - they can ask politely for people to stay home and that's about as far as it goes. Some prefectures are offering monetary incentives to businesses to close early. Nothing anywhere near as draconian as what we're seeing out of Canada right now.

And, yup, it can get strange:
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
Ours apparently came from Brazil. But, no, it's more the fact that the government wanted business to get back into swing, brought out some travel incentives for domestic travel, and it blew up in their faces.

Oof. My sympathies and empathy. My state, despite having had some of the worst initial outbreak, seemed to get a handle on it and now... we do not.
 

Dannyalcatraz

Schmoderator
Staff member
An article published in the journal Science posits that- once enough adults have been exposed to C19 either via infection or vaccination- the virus will be endemic but ultimately no more problematic than its cold-causing cousins. They predict that it will be more like childhood diseases than a world stopper.

 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
An article published in the journal Science posits that- once enough adults have been exposed to C19 either via infection or vaccination- the virus will be endemic but ultimately no more problematic than its cold-causing cousins. They predict that it will be more like childhood diseases than a world stopper.

That posit seems based on the idea that we develop very long lasting immunity from either having it or vaccination. That'd be a great thing, but I don't think it is supported by data yet.
 

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