D&D and the rising pandemic

[Eltab]

How do you convince a stubborn person they're wrong?

Leading off the way you did, is not the way to achieve this goal. That feeds into the cycle of distrust and stubbornness, not break out of it.
You are going to have to take the other folks' interests and complaints and concerns seriously, and address those. Find a way to fix (or at any rate ameliorate) their pain points, and they will work with you not against you.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Leading off the way you did, is not the way to achieve this goal. That feeds into the cycle of distrust and stubbornness, not break out of it.
You are going to have to take the other folks' interests and complaints and concerns seriously, and address those. Find a way to fix (or at any rate ameliorate) their pain points, and they will work with you not against you.

How do you achieve that when they refuse to believe reality, are causing deaths, and don't listen anyway? I am sure they're not going to believe us if we talk nicely to them.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I don't know how you inform the misinformed. How do you convince a stubborn person they're wrong?

This is problem common to a variety of fields.

One ingredient to it is that you’re running into people’s core beliefs about the way things are. That means you’re challenging them. And the way our brain handles mental/social challenges is the same way it handles physical ones: fight or flight.

So it’s kind of a leading a horse to water thing.

 

[UngainlyTitan]

It's going to take something bit in order to get these people to change their mind about Coronavirus. I'm guessing it'll take someone super important dying of this disease, possibly a government official, but who knows. Maybe they'll come up with more conspiracy theories to explain this death.

I don't know how you inform the misinformed. How do you convince a stubborn person they're wrong?

I suspect that anyone who simply disbelieves the news because it does not conform to their version of reality will only change their mind with direct evidence. That is, they get it or someone they know gets it.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

I suspect that anyone who simply disbelieves the news because it does not conform to their version of reality will only change their mind with direct evidence. That is, they get it or someone they know gets it.

I’ve seen a lot of that.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

I suspect that anyone who simply disbelieves the news because it does not conform to their version of reality will only change their mind with direct evidence. That is, they get it or someone they know gets it.

Yes, there have been people protesting the shutdown that have caught Covid-19 and regretted protesting, but that's not going to happen to everyone who protests, and if it does, we're already too late. It will either have to effect someone in their personal life, or someone they look up to, so some major celebrity or politician.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

(I mean, there will always be people who won't accept reality no matter what happens. There'll still be conspiracy theorists saying that everyone dying from coronavirus was murdered by Bill Gates or the government, at least in America, and that's how things will be.)

 

[Eltab]

How do you achieve that when they refuse to believe reality, are causing deaths, and don't listen anyway? I am sure they're not going to believe us if we talk nicely to them.

(emphasis added)
We know from experience that people won't believe you, nor change what they are doing, if you insult them.
There has to be a different way, to get people to change. The example of Rev. Martin Luther King comes to mind, although he did have the luxury of not being on any kind of time limit.

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

(emphasis added)
We know from experience that people won't believe you, nor change what they are doing, if you insult them.
There has to be a different way, to get people to change. The example of Rev. Martin Luther King comes to mind, although he did have the luxury of not being on any kind of time limit.

I know. I obviously will not be jerks in their face to them, because that'll just make them become defensive.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

(emphasis added)
We know from experience that people won't believe you, nor change what they are doing, if you insult them.
There has to be a different way, to get people to change. The example of Rev. Martin Luther King comes to mind, although he did have the luxury of not being on any kind of time limit.

Do a search for “rabbi converts Neo-Nazi”, or “black man converts klansmen”. You’ll find several stories.

The details differ, but one common denominator is that in each case, it took time and a willingness to talk with- not shout at- someone who might be willing to kill you.

It‘s not a path that works all the time. It’s not a skill or mindset that everyone has. Even those who DO have that in them may not be able to muster the strength to exercise it every time- all humans have limits.