D&D and the rising pandemic

[Zardnaar]

Took advantage of post lockdown reopening. Local bakery has reopened. Curry mince pie potato topped and a curry chicken pie with a couple of creamed buns.

One new case in last 5 days, active cases down to 49. No new cases locally last 27 days. One in hospital.

Express my patriotism going on holiday.

Glimmer of hope for tourism as NZers plan domestic holidays - survey

A survey out today shows more than one million New Zealanders plan to take a domestic holiday in the next seven to 12 months.

www.rnz.co.nz

Probably be some good deals going and most foreign tourists are gone. Haven't been that way for 20 years as it got turned into a tourist trap.

 

[Jester David]

Don't care much for local coffee shops reopenning. Or bakeries. Or restaurants. Or even barber shops despite my growing scruff.
But I'm counting the days until spas reopen as I have months of back stress that seriously need massaged.

 

[Zardnaar]

Don't care much for local coffee shops reopenning. Or bakeries. Or restaurants. Or even barber shops despite my growing scruff.
But I'm counting the days until spas reopen as I have months of back stress that seriously need massaged.

Everythings open with limits in large crowds.

Apparently Vietnam did well.

How 'overreaction' made Vietnam a virus success

Not much testing though.

 

[abirdcall]

There are people in this world for whom a job isn’t just about making money. It is an element of their life that helps determine their sense of self worth.* For them, becoming unemployed directly and negatively impacts their mental health. The idea that they would be “supported”- even through benefits they paid for by taxes on the income they earned by the sweat of their brow- is anathema.

i don’t necessarily agree with that mindset, but it exists.



* I count several family members among those numbers

That's why I said 'supported' and not 'funded'.

 

[abirdcall]

Man, it's extra frustrating as a Canadian.
Our economy is intertwined with America, so it's in both of our interests if the pandemic is managed and business can resume. But America seems dead set in resuming too soon and too fast, which will likely cause a spike in cases that hurts our economy and extend the duration we have to keep the border closed.
There's this whole extra layer of impotence as we sit and watch things unfold.

At least we're getting more than a one-time payment. I don't think I would have been able to make rent if I just got $1200 once...

Yeah, we export a lot to the USA and the border is normally heavily used.

There is the added layer of Trump who likes to attack America's allies. He wants the border open which we just cannot have right now. Hopefully he will be busy with other matters and the diplomats can work it out gracefully.

In the end though I am optimistic about Canada. I think we're going to come out of this okay. Well, time will tell for Quebec but the rest of the country seems okay.

 

[tomBitonti]

Transitions are inevitable, but that doesn’t make them non-problematic.

Certainly, they are problematic. But they are more problematic in the way that floods are problematic: Unavoidable, but can be prepared for and minimized, and responded to effectively.
Be safe, be well,
Tom Bitonti

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

That's why I said 'supported' and not 'funded'.

How are you defining “support”?

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

Yeah, we export a lot to the USA and the border is normally heavily used.

There is the added layer of Trump who likes to attack America's allies. He wants the border open which we just cannot have right now. Hopefully he will be busy with other matters and the diplomats can work it out gracefully.

In the end though I am optimistic about Canada. I think we're going to come out of this okay. Well, time will tell for Quebec but the rest of the country seems okay.

Is it too late to move to Canada? I knew I should've done it 3.5 years ago.

 

[Jester David]

There are people in this world for whom a job isn’t just about making money. It is an element of their life that helps determine their sense of self worth.* For them, becoming unemployed directly and negatively impacts their mental health. The idea that they would be “supported”- even through benefits they paid for by taxes on the income they earned by the sweat of their brow- is anathema.

i don’t necessarily agree with that mindset, but it exists.



* I count several family members among those numbers

That was me.
I'm an elementary school librarian. Which pays just as well as you'd expect for the Venn diagram overlap between a librarian and school professional. But was satisfying and has decent benefits.

But with the school year effectively over, it means I'm unemployed and basically just sitting around my house for another three-and-a-half months.

Is it too late to move to Canada? I knew I should've done it 3.5 years ago.

It's too late to move and benefit for this disaster, but not too late for the next one.

 

[Umbran]

The wealthy losing money isn't something I care about.

Recession isn't just the wealthy losing money. It is about how much wealth is being generated, which impacts how many people companies feel they can have on the payroll - recession means that all those jobs lost short term due to closing for distancing purposes may not come back. And that's a problem.

Oh, and by they way, do you have any concept of how many pension plans are tied to the stock market? 401k accounts? Lots of not-so-wealthy people depend upon the general health of the economy to get them through their retirement with something better than a cardboard box as a lifestyle!

You can't just say "screw the economy, it doesn't matter." In a 300+ million person society, the economy is important for the welfare of all people.

Yes, there is a class of people who pull huge amounts of money from that economy without actually generating what I'm referring to as wealth, but they are not the only ones who depend on the health of the economy.