D&D and the rising pandemic


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Dannyalcatraz

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Hussar

Legend
In terms of Covid and gaming - what a total BS year. My experience has, being a font line worker in the UK, going into lockdown at work March 2020, having to shield when at home so as not to bring the virus into work or vice versa, last saw 2 of my gaming group 3 months ago for the first time since March 2020 - at the from the bottom of their steps because they their mother lives with them and she's high risk. Another member of our gaming group unexpectedly died (not covid) which meant, due to limited funeral attendance numbers, seeing one other member of our group since March 2020. Due to the front line demands of covid at work not taking any annual leave for over 12 months (nowhere to go even if I did) and being too stressed when not at work to arrange any online substitute gaming - and the lack of gaming, as my usual stress reliever, making everything a s**t cake. BUT I did finish my 28mm scale SeaGhost, prep a one Judge Dredd/Alien mash up One Shot for when 'we' can all meet again and printed a s**t ton of scenery for my, still unplayed because it was released during lockdown, copy of the Judge Dredd Miniatures Game.

So, in summation, a bad year for gaming for many.

.... and now the UK is being prepped for more bad news as the India variant starts to become problematic .... smart money (as an inside word from the Health Dept epidemiologists) says we are going to get another surge of infections in about 2 weeks for many reasons too long to list.

TL;DR: blurgh, just needed to vent somewhere
Honestly, and I'm sure you've heard this before, but, online gaming is a pretty good way to go. There are so many options to choose from. Whether the big boys like Roll20 or Fantasy Grounds or things like Virtual Tabletop and Astra something or other. There's just a whole shopping load of virtual tabletops out there now that are really quite good.

Talk about a change from a few years ago where it was basically three choices - Maptools, Roll20 and Fantasy Grounds.
 

KainGuru

Explorer
Honestly, and I'm sure you've heard this before, but, online gaming is a pretty good way to go. There are so many options to choose from. Whether the big boys like Roll20 or Fantasy Grounds or things like Virtual Tabletop and Astra something or other. There's just a whole shopping load of virtual tabletops out there now that are really quite good.

Talk about a change from a few years ago where it was basically three choices - Maptools, Roll20 and Fantasy Grounds.
I'm okie with roll20, I've been to few virtual cons in the past. It's that the other players have never used it and I can't go round to their's to set it up for them
 

GreyLord

Legend
While I take your point, I'd also point out that early in the pandemic, the CDC and other health authorities told us not to wear face masks... but later changed their mind and endorsed them. What if they change their mind again, too late to stop other negative consequences of this policy?

There's also a world of difference between questioning health advice that's inconvenient for individuals but protective of the populace at large, and questioning health advice that's convenient for individuals but increases risk to the populace at large.

I understand the deep desire for folks to get back to a semblance of normalcy... but even if the science doesn't strictly require it, I think it would have been wiser to continue recommending masking, until we reached peak immunization numbers. It's not a big thing to ask of people, and it could significantly increase our odds of keeping Covid under control. But it's too late now...
This is my worry...right here.

I am wondering if this is what they really want, or if they are using it as a bone to try to tempt the dogs that refuse to get vaccinated as a lure to get them to vaccinate.

Basically saying...if you get vaccinated you don't have to worry about being pressured to wear a mask anymore...it's a benefit that you can have...etc...etc...etc.

So...while I am hopeful, I think I'll give it a few weeks to see if there are any changes, and if it stays the same, then go unmask completely.
 

Janx

Hero
y'know, I enjoyed not getting a cold or flu or pretty much anything last year. And my masks are awesome. So given how unwashed most of the unwashed masses are, I'm prolly gonna stick with it, because Covid isn't the only crud on the shopping cart handle.
 

Umbran

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Hussar

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y'know, I enjoyed not getting a cold or flu or pretty much anything last year. And my masks are awesome. So given how unwashed most of the unwashed masses are, I'm prolly gonna stick with it, because Covid isn't the only crud on the shopping cart handle.
Funnily enough, this is the reason that most people seem to point to for why Japan isn't getting buried under a mountain of cases. It's so deeply ingrained in people that when you have so much as a sniffle, you wear a mask to protect other people that getting nearly universal masking in Japan was actually pretty easy.

And, honestly, it worked to a fair degree. We've never had lockdown. Even though they're talking extending emergency measures here, all that means is public buildings are closed. The schools are open - my daughters haven't missed a single day of school this year. Heck, even before Covid, they would close the school during flu season if the number of cases got high enough. That didn't happen this year. Which, as someone who teaches children, not getting sick repeatedly was actually kinda nice.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
Good news sort of on the microscale.


First tourists in Rarotonga in 14 months. 297 including a medical team from NZ to help with vaccinations. Travel bubble extended from Aussie/NZ/ Rarotonga.

I think some of the small pacific islands dodged Covid altogether last I heard around 8 of them.

Reads like a Survivor TV show location guide. They don't really have the facilities to deal with Covid and some places like French Polynesia, Guam and Hawaii got hit hard.
 
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Umbran

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Reads like a Survivor TV show location guide. They don't really have the facilities to deal with Covid and some places like French Polynesia, Guam and Hawaii got hit hard.

Hawaii got hit hard?

The US, as a whole, has had about 33 million cases, 587,000 deaths in a population of about 328 million people. About 10% of the population has had covid, and about 0.2% of the poopulation has died.

Hawaii has had 34,247 cases, in a population of about 1.4 million people. About 2% of their population has had covid. And they've had all of 489 deaths - or 0.03%. Their case and death rates are much lower than what we've seen elsewhere.

So, statistically with the disease, Hawaii has done well compared to the rest of the country. The economic impact, however, may be more notable.
 

Dannyalcatraz

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Hawaii got hit hard?

The US, as a whole, has had about 33 million cases, 587,000 deaths in a population of about 328 million people. About 10% of the population has had covid, and about 0.2% of the poopulation has died.

Hawaii has had 34,247 cases, in a population of about 1.4 million people. About 2% of their population has had covid. And they've had all of 489 deaths - or 0.03%. Their case and death rates are much lower than what we've seen elsewhere.

So, statistically with the disease, Hawaii has done well compared to the rest of the country. The economic impact, however, may be more notable.
I suspect the comment was in regards to their tourist industry- a major driving economic factor for all of those places.
 



Zardnaar

Legend
Relative to other Pacific island areas proportionally Hawaii was hit hard relative to the Covid free nation that never got it or NZ that eliminated it. The Covid free ones closed the borders.

They're all reliant on tourism (Samoa, Palau Hawaii, French Polynesia).

The smaller nations don't really have the facilities to deal with Covid, NZ/Hawaii.
 

Umbran

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Relative to other Pacific island areas proportionally Hawaii was hit hard relative to the Covid free nation that never got it or NZ that eliminated it.

That just means you don't really know what "hard" is in the medical sense. The US, on average, had five to ten times more deaths per capita than Hawaii. Hawaii, to my understanding, didn't have their hospitals overwhelmed. Only 492 people died. They didn't need to bring in refrigerated trucks to act as temporary storage for the dead. And right now, India's doing even worse.

Heck, my county which has a population of 1.6 million (just a bit more than the state of Hawaii, had 7 times more deaths than Hawaii.

So, medically, no Hawaii didn't get hit hard, thank goodness. To suggest they did is disrespect to those who are having it far, far worse.

Economically, yeah, this was surely a blow to the state.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
That just means you don't really know what "hard" is in the medical sense. The US, on average, had five to ten times more deaths per capita than Hawaii. Hawaii, to my understanding, didn't have their hospitals overwhelmed. Only 492 people died. They didn't need to bring in refrigerated trucks to act as temporary storage for the dead. And right now, India's doing even worse.

Heck, my county which has a population of 1.6 million (just a bit more than the state of Hawaii, had 7 times more deaths than Hawaii.

So, medically, no Hawaii didn't get hit hard, thank goodness. To suggest they did is disrespect to those who are having it far, far worse.

Economically, yeah, this was surely a blow to the state.

It's relative though. Small places like Guam have had more cases than my country.

Basically can compare case numbers in the various pacific islands with other Pacific islands.

Relative to French Polynesia/Hawaii/Guam the other places had 0 deaths, 0 cases in some instances.

494 is over double what an earthquake here killed (pop 5 million vs 2.7) and around half of what Australia lost (population 25 million). That Earthquake proportionaly killed more people than 9/11.

It might not be much compared to mainland USA but it's not close to normal.
 

Hussar

Legend
Hawaii got hit hard?

The US, as a whole, has had about 33 million cases, 587,000 deaths in a population of about 328 million people. About 10% of the population has had covid, and about 0.2% of the poopulation has died.

Hawaii has had 34,247 cases, in a population of about 1.4 million people. About 2% of their population has had covid. And they've had all of 489 deaths - or 0.03%. Their case and death rates are much lower than what we've seen elsewhere.

So, statistically with the disease, Hawaii has done well compared to the rest of the country. The economic impact, however, may be more notable.
To be fair, being hit less hard than the mainland of the United States isn't exactly anything to brag about. LOTS of places were less effected than the US. "Hit less hard than the US" is a very low bar.

It's annoying too. So many of my friends and family back in Canada are looking at how the US is now starting to open up and are demanding that we do the same, even though we haven't had the vaccination rates that the US has had, are still having very high infection rates in some areas and STILL have people refusing to take proper precautions. It's really a recipe for disaster.

I think if I were Canada, I'd wait a few weeks after the US starts relaxing restrictions to see if they were right or not before I'd start relaxing north of the border.
 

Dannyalcatraz

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People out there are reviving the false claim that HIPPA prevents anyone from asking about your medical history, including vaccination status. This was false then, and is still so today. They can’t FORCE you to reveal that information, but they can exclude you from the premises if you do not.

 

Dannyalcatraz

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And in other cheery news...


According to this article, a canine coronavirus is currentl being found in a certain percentage of pneumonia patients the doctors examined. They cannot say at this time of the virus is actually causing the pneumonia- which would make it the 8th coronavirus to affect humans- or if it’s presence is coincidental. They also point out that they do not know how the patients carrying this virus got infected, but believe they have NOT gotten it from other humans. IOW, they suspect that- for now- it is strictly jumping from infected canines to vulnerable humans.

They also noted that there is a mutation in this virus similar to ones found in SARS, MERS, and COVID which may be key in better suiting it to survive in humans.
 

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