D&D (2024) D&D Pre-orders; this is sad

mamba

Legend
But are the D&D Beyond 1-week early / 2-weeks early meaning "1 or 2 weeks before global release"? Or something else?
they are the same

  • Vecna, Eve of Ruin (Early Access May 7, 2024)
  • Quests from the Infinite Staircase (Early Access July 9, 2024)
  • Player's Handbook (2024) (Early Access September 3, 2024)
  • Dungeon Master's Guide (2024) (Early Access October 29, 2024)
  • Monster Manual (2025) (Early Access Feb 4, 2025)
 

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Cordwainer Fish

Imp. Int. Scout Svc. (Dishon. Ret.)
Doesn't embargoed mean "not for sale yet"?
It also means "property of the store, which may well be contractually obligated to not sell them yet but if they do IT IS NOT A CRIMINAL MATTER, YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS BECAUSE WIZBRO SENT A BRUTE SQUAD INSTEAD OF CALLING THE COPS".
 

DarkCrisis

Spreading holiday cheer.
Congratulations!

It is not only corporations and capitalism. Every country uses some kind of currency and all is based on the same principle: money vs time and proficiency.

I am a teacher. I would die if I would not get money which I could trade vs food.
Some farmer grows food and gets money for that. They want their children to be educated. So they pay taxes from which I am paid to spend my time educating their children.

If you happen to find away to get rid of money, I would happily teach it to everyone.
But I guess if you do away with it, I fear everyone would die of hunger because not enough people will spend their time working hard on the field if they could instead play D&D or hang around in online forums.

I guess I should better explain

Capitalism is fine. Predatory Capitalism is not. What we have today is Money over Morals. If a Corp can poison a river to make a few extra $$$ they will (and concerning new US laws that's about to get worse).

What I have a problem with is exploitation. Those with money and power using it to better themselves at the expense of the plebs.

It's not a joke that we do in fact live is a dystopia and it's only going to get worse.

People will live and adapt, but people will also die because of it. And not just the US but other countries.

Greed is the issue. Pure naked barely regulated greed.

And yes WotC is a minor player in all of this but they are still out for profit over costumer. What some people see as free digital incentives that doesn't hurt anyone is just that, an incentive to get on the digital train. The fact that people can't see or believe that WotC would like to "ONE DAY" (not right now or soon) get rid of paper products and go full digital subscription to play D&D blows my mind. Yes you don't have to worry about it now. Yes you can just keep using your 5th ed books forever. But as a company who wants money, and not just the money but more money, they have to find a way to make you keep ponying up $$$ and that doesn't work as intended when you can just buy 3 books and call it a day.

Am I part of the problem? Yes. I love D&D. I've loved D&D probably longer than a lot of fans on here have been alive so I'm not going to abandoned it. But that doesn't mean I can't want it and WotC to DO BETTER (and every other corp on Earth LOL). Which I would hope we could all agree on that WotC (and any corp) can and should do better and not be only enticed by the bottom line so beloved by a few shareholders.

But yeah nothing is going to change but wishful thinking is fun.

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The artificial early access, the exclusive goods for the bundle, the number of frames and backdrop which immediately tells you how they intend to run the VTT and the integration with DBB. You'll pay for every little bit.
You do know the frames, backdrops, and dice, have existed for years now and have nothing to do with the VTT.

They are just decorations for the character sheets.

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Heck the only reason the third picture increases the number of stuff you are getting is because you are getting three different books instead of one.
 
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KYRON45

Hero
It also means "property of the store, which may well be contractually obligated to not sell them yet but if they do IT IS NOT A CRIMINAL MATTER, YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS BECAUSE WIZBRO SENT A BRUTE SQUAD INSTEAD OF CALLING THE COPS".
It’s always refreshing when someone tells me what I do and don’t know.
 



mamba

Legend
If you think extra backdrops and picture frames on a DDB character sheet are driving people's purchasing decisions, I think you're vastly overvaluing those things.
I am sure they do, and so does WotC given that these are the only incentive they are offering for preordering the books
 


payn

I don't believe in the no-win scenario
I guess I should better explain

Capitalism is fine. Predatory Capitalism is not. What we have today is Money over Morals. If a Corp can poison a river to make a few extra $$$ they will (and concerning new US laws that's about to get worse).

What I have a problem with is exploitation. Those with money and power using it to better themselves at the expense of the plebs.

It's not a joke that we do in fact live is a dystopia and it's only going to get worse.

People will live and adapt, but people will also die because of it. And not just the US but other countries.

Greed is the issue. Pure naked barely regulated greed.

And yes WotC is a minor player in all of this but they are still out for profit over costumer. What some people see as free digital incentives that doesn't hurt anyone is just that, an incentive to get on the digital train. The fact that people can't see or believe that WotC would like to "ONE DAY" (not right now or soon) get rid of paper products and go full digital subscription to play D&D blows my mind. Yes you don't have to worry about it now. Yes you can just keep using your 5th ed books forever. But as a company who wants money, and not just the money but more money, they have to find a way to make you keep ponying up $$$ and that doesn't work as intended when you can just buy 3 books and call it a day.

Am I part of the problem? Yes. I love D&D. I've loved D&D probably longer than a lot of fans on here have been alive so I'm not going to abandoned it. But that doesn't mean I can't want it and WotC to DO BETTER (and every other corp on Earth LOL). Which I would hope we could all agree on that WotC (and any corp) can and should do better and not be only enticed by the bottom line so beloved by a few shareholders.

But yeah nothing is going to change but wishful thinking is fun.

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Not going to apologize for wanting digital, even if it means the end of civilization. 🤷‍♂️
 

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