D&D Urban Legends: I new this guy who...

Wulf Ratbane said:
Orrrrrrrrrr... It could just be the fact that no game in the house offers 50/50 odds. Those "who can actually play their games" can only get close to 50/50. The more you know, the closer you can get to 50/50.
There are games where you can end up with a significant profit if you really know the system - an example is blackjack and card counting. It's general policy for a casino to get rid of someone who's card counting over a long period of time.
Casinos just don't need to cheat the game and they don't have to rely on "suckers." The odds favor the house, and the sheer amount of money moving through the casino means they'll make money, no matter what.
By suckers I mean people who go to a casino and expect to come out with more money than they went in with when playing on a game that genuinely has less than 50/50 odds and people who gamble with money that they can't afford to lose.
Sorry about your run of bad luck, but there's no reason to take it out on the casino.
Never been to one, and never intend to go to one with an eye to making money.
 

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Daedrova said:
Upon reaching the room, the DM had us all roll initiative. Coincidently my Paladin and my Illiara were ahead in initiative, on the same count with the same Dex modifiers. Both of our actions were obvious, and the DM decided that this would come down to an opposed attack roll as we both grabbed for the sword.

This is where this most peculiar even occurred (on a side note- this DM was in the practice of rolling the dice out from behind the screen where everyone could see the results- no fudged rolls for help or hindrance)
Knowing I had the same attack bonus she did, I was disappointed when my dice came up showing a 6, but much to my relief, her dice showed the same number. The rest of it goes something like this

"What do we do on a tied opposed attack roll" I said.

The DM replied "it would make sense to just roll the dice again.

We preceded to pick up our dice simultaneously, looking each other in the eyes, a slight smirk upon or faces. We both let our dice go, then glanced down just before they came to a stop.

"Nineteen, YES.." and my excitement dropped as I looked over to see my DM's die showing the same result.

"Wow, you have to be kidding me", and he continued "well, lets just roll them again. That is just too unlikely to happen again."

But, as you could have guessed, it did. Not only that time, but we rolled those D20's 6 times, rolling the SAME number as the other each time.

"What the ..." he had a slightly concerned but bemused look on his face.
By that time we started to get some guests at our gaming table, as we were making a bit of a fuss there at the gaming store*. "Ok, enough with these dice... pick up your D12. I don't know what is up with these."

And we proceeded to roll them... both of us coming up with 8.

I picked the die up again to roll, but was stopped by my DM-
"No, were not doing this with these dice too. D8's"

Again, the same number for each of us. And so I looked at him, not sure of what he would decide on next.

"Ok, D6's"

Resolute, the DM decided that we would not change dice untill these came up with different numbers. Fortunatly, we only had to roll these twice before the numbers came up 5 vs. 2- Good being the victor ;) as it should be after a long hard fought battle with evil. To this day that remains one of my most favorable gaming memories.
My friend/the DM did go home and work out just how statistically improbable that was. Later, he did mention that we could have won the State lottery maybe 3 times. I am curious though- would anyone be able to figure out the exact probability of what occurred there? I myself have no experience with statistical numbers/probability type equations.

*(Star Gaming here in Akron, OH- not long afterward it moved. Unfortunately it is now shut down, despite my attempts to keep it going by buying nearly every D&D book put out.)

Odds:

(Init) 1/20 * (attack rolls) (1/20)^6 * other dice (1/12 * 1/8 * 1/6) =

1 in 737,280,000,000 or 1 in 737 billion.

Great story!
 

Saeviomagy said:
There are games where you can end up with a significant profit if you really know the system - an example is blackjack and card counting. It's general policy for a casino to get rid of someone who's card counting over a long period of time.

Even with card counting the odds move only slight to the player's favor, the vagaries of statistics means that long losing streaks are still quite possible. The only way to really make money consistently counting cards is to play A LOT or even better to get a large group of counters to play A LOT (ie the MIT blackjack team). Of course this is exactly how the casinos do it, they gain massive profits because they have an enormous number of machines/tables running at the same time...
 

more on glass

Dear Cecil:

OK, no bull:):):):) now. I got a simple question, I want a simple answer: how come you can see through glass? --Daniel C., Washington, D.C.

Dear Daniel:

Not to beat around the bush or anything, Dan, but the reason you can see through glass basically is that there is no reason for you not to be able to see through it. Despite its appearance, glass is really a highly viscous liquid rather than a solid, and you can see through it for the same reasons that you can see through water.

Having supplied that admirably simple answer, permit me to elaborate. Conventional liquids, when cooled, have a freezing point at which they suddenly become solid. Liquid glass, by contrast, simply gets gradually stiffer as it cools. At room temperature its rate of flow is so slow that it would take billions of years to ooze out of shape, and for most practical purposes it may be treated as a solid.

Its internal structure, though, is not the regular crystalline latticework of your standard solid, but rather is essentially random, like the typical liquid. As with many liquids, the rather loosely spaced molecules in glass are simply not big enough to obstruct the passage of light particles.

Furthermore, (a) there are no footloose electrons in glass to reflect light, as with metals; (b) the energy levels of the individual atoms in glass are not such that they absorb light in the visible spectrum, although they will absorb infrared and ultraviolet; and (c) there are no internal boundaries or discontinuities in glass as there are in ordinary crystal solids to refract light, which would cause some light to be lost to internal reflection. (Glass reflects light only at its external boundaries-- that is, the boundary between the glass and the surrounding air, or whatever. This permits refraction to be precisely controlled, which is what makes eyeglasses, and optics in general, possible.) In short, the reason you can see through glass is that there is no reason for you not to be able to see through it. QED.

BUSTED!

Dear Cecil:

WOW! I may have the distinct pleasure of catching the Straight Dope in an error. It regards a question that once enabled me to win a bet with a retarded ex-girlfriend and her Mensa mom: Is glass a liquid or a solid? I was taught that it was a supercooled liquid, and the dictionary concurred. What's more, in answering the question "How come you can see through glass?" you yourself said, "Despite its appearance, glass is really a highly viscous liquid rather than a solid." Needless to say, I was able to stick it in their proverbial eye. Recently, however, I have heard that glass isn't a liquid, it's an amorphous solid. Now who's going to open their eye big and wide for me? Please don't start tap-dancing and say it's all relative. We all know the world is black and white. Glass, solid or liquid? --Shayne Kislack

P.S.: Please let me know if I'm eligible for some sort of prize.

Cecil replies:

Now, Shayne. The mark of a truly great mind isn't whether you're right or wrong. It's how well you can weasel out of a jam.

Lesser folk might prefer it otherwise, but there's no sharp line dividing liquids and solids. A supercooled liquid, the term applied to glass for many years, has been rapidly chilled past its normal freezing point and become apparently solid without assuming the regular crystalline structure typical of solids. The term du jour, amorphous solid, means an apparently solid substance that lacks crystalline structure and instead has the random organization of liquids. In other words, we used to think of glass as a solidlike liquid, and now we think of it as a liquidlike solid. Big frickin' deal.

I concede that changes in the properties of glass once it cools past the "glass transition temperature" are an argument for calling it a solid. But to my mind the real question is whether glass flows, as liquids do. I'm happy to say it does, just not very fast. In the original column I wrote, "At room temperature [glass's] rate of flow is so slow that it would take billions of years to ooze out of shape." In the October 1999 issue of Discover, Yvonne Stokes, a mathematician at the University of Adelaide in Australia, says that it would take a mere ten million years for a windowpane to get 5 percent thicker at the bottom. So the way I see it, not only was I essentially right, I was being conservative by a margin of 100 to 1.

--CECIL ADAMS

from
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_120.html
 


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