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Charlaquin

Goblin Queen (She/Her/Hers)
Well, everybody complains about Cheesecake and objectifying women. Now it's time to make an uproar about naked Goat Men in our DND. At least the women have clothes on. This guy just swinging it around all out there in the wind with a smile on his face.

Equality is demanded.
Except the depiction isn’t sexualized. It doesn’t even fall into “tasteful nude” territory.
 

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RavinRay

Explorer
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What happened to the gargoyle-inspired face? Those look like wilted blue dragon ear frills. :rolleyes:
 



doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
I had this conversation with a friend of mind playing a centaur in another D&D game:

Me: A centaur? I guess that campaign won't be spending much time in dungeons or climbing mountains?
Him: Huh?
Me: Centaurs are large and awkward creatures. Just going up and down stairs, ladders, doorways, anywhere the party might need to crawl, turning around in very narrow passages, all of that is going to be a recurring obstacle. So I am assuming the game will be a more pastoral vibe.
Him: Centaurs are medium in 5E and you can worry about that stuff or you can just, you know, handwave it and have fun.
Me: Handwaving that stuff is the opposite of fun to me. 🤷‍♂️

So that's where I still stand, but I'm glad some folks will have the options for their own style of game.
Horses aren’t actually terribly awkward. They’re quite sure footed. Some can climb very steep inclines quite easily.

And they’re medium, shorter than Goliaths. About the only actual problem would be crawling.
 

el-remmen

Moderator Emeritus
Horses aren’t actually terribly awkward. They’re quite sure footed. Some can climb very steep inclines quite easily.

And they’re medium, shorter than Goliaths. About the only actual problem would be crawling.

I don't know about that. I think a centaur mule would be better off. .


And doing steps that aren't sufficiently shallow and wide would be very difficult for them and have never known a horse that can go down a ladder. That said, them being medium would certainly help - but in my mind there is no way a classic centaur can be medium. Again, others may feel differently.

I do think playing creatures of that type work better depending on the campaign. They would likely not do well in a typical D&D campaign.
 






Classic centaur depictions from ancient Greek art and other places, I'd say Centaurs do sort of fit within "medium" the same way there's a bunch of "almost giant" races with powerful build that fit within medium. They're always depicted as having human size torsos and are not much taller than Humans.

Some people here have tried to use Draft Horses for examples, but if a Centaur had a Draft Horse lower body, they'd have an Ogre size upper body.
 

Stormonu

Legend
That Abashia miniature pretty much matches the miniature I have.

As a current centaur player, it disappoints me that WotC has no problems allowing & counting Small characters as Medium, but is afraid to do similar with Large PCs. Definitely a bias there. Also, I assume as fey creatures, they have sure footing built in. Ladders, though, I could still see being ackward, but not so much mountainous slopes and certainly not stairs.
 


I was not surprised to Playable Centuars or Satyrs, while they were in MtG crossover books they are D&D multiverse staple creature with one degree or another of playability in past editions of D&D, but I was surprised to Eladrin as they were a subrace.

What does this bode for Aasimar, Genasi, Gith, and other subrace based races I don't know

I will say what could be interesting for Eladrin would be getting to pick your creature type. Not Fey AND Humaniod, but rather you pick Fey or Celestial or Humaniod when you make the character, like Owlin and Haregon pick medium or small for size.
 


I was surprised to Eladrin as they were a subrace.
Why surprised? We already knew subraces where going.

A lot of the reason subraces where invented in the first place was to give a different distribution of ASIs, which is no longer needed. It was pretty much a 5e thing anyway, not something with a long history.

I suspect some of the more redundant ones will be dropped, like halfling subraces.
 

Why surprised? We already knew subraces where going.

They weren't present in FToDs, but Dragonborn never had subraces to begin with so nothing was certain. I mean alot of folks that lineage would replace race for VRGtR, but it didn't, turned out lineage is just an optional replacement, one that likely races can be taken after 1st level.
 

They weren't present in FToDs, but Dragonborn never had subraces to begin with so nothing was certain. I mean alot of folks that lineage would replace race for VRGtR, but it didn't, turned out lineage is just an optional replacement, one that likely races can be taken after 1st level.
If the word "race" had issues, that goes double for subrace!

Lineage is a soft replacement. "race" is being phased out. It won't be gone completely until the new rulebooks in 2024. Until then the two systems exist in parallel.
 

Parmandur

Book-Friend
They weren't present in FToDs, but Dragonborn never had subraces to begin with so nothing was certain. I mean alot of folks that lineage would replace race for VRGtR, but it didn't, turned out lineage is just an optional replacement, one that likely races can be taken after 1st level.
Yeah, with the Tasha rules for ASI, subrace is not really useful mostnof the time. I'm pretty sure the "Astral Elf" from the Last UA is a test for a new core "Elf" for the next Core.
 

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