Dancing Shields, a Shield and Shield spell

reapersaurus

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If you have a +2 Dancing Shield (+4 bonus total) as well as a Large Steel Shield (+2 bonus) and a Shield spell (+7 bonus) up, what would the bonus to AC be?

edit: reasons why would be helpful to understanding your position.
 
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reapersaurus said:
If you have a +2 Dancing Shield (+4 bonus total) as well as a Large Steel Shield (+2 bonus) and a Shield spell (+7 bonus) up, what would the bonus to AC be?

edit: reasons why would be helpful to understanding your position.

You mean animated, not dancing. Under 'animated', it says only one shield can protect you at a time. So, the answer is you get +11 to AC to half the battle field, and +4 to the other half.
 

you'd get the higher of the two armor bonuses from the shields, namely the +2 Dancing shield (+4) and the cover bonus from the shield spell (+7). The other shield is dead weight. Total bonus to Ac would be +11, assuming both the shield spell and dancing shield were covering the same facing.

You could just as easily have the shield spell oriented to your back, and your dancing shield cover your front, but then the two bonuses wouldn't stack. But you would have an ac bonus from both your front and your back (+4 on one, +7 on the other),.. which could be quite handy.


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Sejs said:
[...]assuming both the shield spell and dancing shield were covering the same facing.
An animated shield does not have facing. It protects the wielder "as if she were using it herself," which means it protects against all attacks regardless of their origin direction.

jontherev's answer is correct: you get a total of +11 to the half that the Shield spell protects, and +4 to the other half.
 

What is with all of the shield questions?

There is this one , one about using a shield in each hand, and another about shield while being grappled.

What is next shield spell cast, a shield in each hand and 2 dozen animated shield floating around some guy?
 
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Orco42 said:
What is with all of the shield questions?

There is this one , one about using a shield in each hand, and another about shield while being grappled.

What is next shield spell cast, a shield in each hand and 2 dozen animated shield floating around some guy?

How about forming some gray Ioun stones in the shape of small bucklers? And then enchanting them +(n)?

:p

-AK
 

Re: Re: Dancing Shields, a Shield and Shield spell

jontherev said:


You mean animated, not dancing. Under 'animated', it says only one shield can protect you at a time. So, the answer is you get +11 to AC to half the battle field, and +4 to the other half.

dancing is actually a shield property from Sword & Fist, separate from animated. A dancing shield provides a cover bonus to AC vs. one opponent/round.

Assuming that it was indeed a +2 dancing shield and not a +2 animated one, the answer would be:

+9 from the side of the battlefield protected by the shield spell (+7 from the spell, +2 from the weilded shield)

+6 vs. one opponent on the side not protected by the shield spell (+4 from the dancing shield, +2 from the weilded shield.

+2 vs. everyone else.

Note that since the shield spell and the dancing shield both provide cover bonuses, they do not stack.

EDIT: Of course, dancing from S&F is a +3 bonus, not +2, so the poster probably does mean animated - in which case it's the +11/+4 that has been mentioned before: both the animated shield and the normal one provide the same sort of bonus to AC, so they cannot stack.

J
 
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Re: Re: Dancing Shields, a Shield and Shield spell

jontherev said:
You mean animated, not dancing.
No, I mean Dancing (from S&F).

So since it provides a cover bonus, and Shield spell provides a cover bonus (still?), they don't stack.
OK.

But it does stack with the normal Large Steel Shield.
 

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