Deadeye Shot Feat Question (PHB2)

[Egres]

Either the Hurling Charge is made as part of the standard action that you ready (Cometary Collision charge), or it isn't.

If it is, you declare it when you Ready. If it isn't, you can't perform it when your Readied action triggers.

Nope.

Nowhere you'll find that I must ready something more than my readied action.

And the extra attack granted by the §Hurling charge feat is more than my readied action, that is a simple charge.

I can take free actions while performing another action normally. If I Ready to attack Bob when he gets close... at the point that my Readied action triggers, can I drop my longsword, Quick Draw my greatsword, cast a Quickened True Strike, and attack him?

Buit we aren't talking about free actions here, Hyp.

Weren't you the one who underlined that an attack isn't an action, even a free action?

Should you declare that you are going to sunder your opponent's shield at the end of your charge, or do you need only to declare that you are readying a charge?

You know the answer.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Buit we aren't talking about free actions here, Hyp.

No, but you're talking about doing something above and beyond the action you've readied.

Should you declare that you are going to sunder your opponent's shield at the end of your charge, or do you need only to declare that you are readying a charge?

You know the answer.

Well, that also depends on whether one allows Sunder as part of a charge - the Sunder action doesn't carry footnote 7, after all.

But let's use Disarm as the example instead.

Can you say "I Ready a charge", and then as part of that charge, attempt a Disarm? Or must you say "I Ready a charge with an attempt to Disarm"?

Adjudicating the Ready Action says you must make the player using it be as specific as possible about what the character is doing.

"I Ready the Cast a Spell action" is not sufficient. "I Ready the Cast a Spell action to cast Magic Missile at the high priest" is required.

So, by the same logic, "I Ready the Charge action" is not sufficient; "I Ready the Charge action with the aim of Disarming the blackguard" would be required. And if you intended to make use of Hurling Charge in the course of that readied action, as specific as possible would require you to include that in your declaration.

-Hyp.

 

[Egres]

Can you say "I Ready a charge", and then as part of that charge, attempt a Disarm?

Readying an action to "attack anyone that tries to hurt my helpless ally" is allowed, and nowhere you'll find that I need to declare what I will do in this "attack".

For example, I could use the Sundering Cleave maneuver to sunder my opponent's shield and attack him.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Readying an action to "attack anyone that tries to hurt my helpless ally" is allowed, and nowhere you'll find that I need to declare what I will do in this "attack".

How is that different to readying an action to "cast a spell on anyone that tries etc", without declaring which spell?

-Hyp.

 

[Egres]

How is that different to readying an action to "cast a spell on anyone that tries etc", without declaring which spell?

-Hyp.

Because attacking my opponent is quite more specific than casting "a spell", and you know it.

Please, note that in my example I am effectively readying an attack, and nothing more.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Because attacking my opponent is quite more specific than casting "a spell", and you know it.

But is Readying to 'attack my opponent', and then attempting to Disarm him, within the bounds of what you readied? And if so, is what you readied specific enough?

Is 'attack my opponent', with the option to disarm, trip, or grapple left open, any more specific than 'cast an offensive spell at my opponent', with the choice of Magic Missile, Scorching Ray, or Acid Arrow left open?

-Hyp.

 

[Egres]

But is Readying to 'attack my opponent', and then attempting to Disarm him, within the bounds of what you readied? And if so, is what you readied specific enough?

Actually, my example was completely different.

I talked about the sundering cleave option.

Would you mind answering basing your answer to my example?

 

[Hypersmurf]

I talked about the sundering cleave option.

Would you mind answering basing your answer to my example?

Well, yes, because I wouldn't allow a Sunder as part of a Charge - the Sunder action doesn't carry footnote 7 - so I consider your example invalid, and thus can't base my answer on it. Which is why I substituted Disarm in the first place.

-Hyp.

 

[Egres]

Well, yes, because I wouldn't allow a Sunder as part of a Charge - the Sunder action doesn't carry footnote 7 - so I consider your example invalid, and thus can't base my answer on it. Which is why I substituted Disarm in the first place.

-Hyp.

Nope.

My example was: "I attack anyone that tries to hurt my helpless ally".

Can I use the sundering cleave option? (I'm not charging anyone here)

 

[Hypersmurf]

Nope.

My example was: "I attack anyone that tries to hurt my helpless ally".

Can I use the sundering cleave option? (I'm not charging anyone here)

Since the action you're taking is Sunder, I'd require that your readied action be "I sunder the weapon of anyone that tries to hurt my helpless ally".

If you did so successfully, Combat Brute would allow you to Cleave into the wielder, just as dropping someone with an attack granted by a readied action would allow you to Cleave into another opponent. And I would consider the attack from the Sundering Cleave to be 'a readied attack', since it occurs as part of a readied action.

-Hyp.