Deicide: The slaying of Cyric. 3.5 Epic

[Myth and Legend]

You confuse me, sir. None of the concepts I posted has so much as a single level of warlock. My Incantatrix proposal is a sorceror...not a warlock.

*slaps forhead* yep, totally right. Your characters usually have something fey or warlock-y in them so i confused sorc with warlock.

Incantatrix is good, even as a Sorcerer is below a Wizard in terms of sheer broneknnes, this PrC makes up and stull shoots your character to tier 1+. I suggest you don't focus on enevration though (as most Incantatrixes do) as it will be useless vs DR0 and up enemies.

You seem to have a very good grasp on mechanics, feel free to correct me or suggest stuff to the others.

 

[Shayuri]

Oh no, I wasn't going neg levels. The Sorc/Incantatrix is a damage engine. Twin Spell, Quicken Spell, Empower Spell and Maximize Spell (and Heighten). With the Improved Metamagic class feature and the possible use of Greater Arcane Fusion, I can toss off up to 3 spells per round, or one twinned and one quickened. And nothing says "I love you so much I want you to die" like three Disintegrates in one round.

Abjurant Champion's included mainly to shore up defenses, and it helps with BAB as well...all important for making those ranged touch attacks.

That build promises to have ridiculous damage output...but it won't have the special defenses and durability Omega has. Even so, Shapechange IS the great equalizer.

Truth be told, it's a tough choice for me. Sorc/Incantatrix is probably more powerful...but I suspect Omega may be more fun from an RP perspective, and he definitely fulfills the 'tank' party role.

 

[crazy_monkey1956]

...but I suspect Omega may be more fun from an RP perspective, and he definitely fulfills the 'tank' party role.

Somewhat literally (being metal and all).

I think I am going to relinquish my spot to someone who will have more fun with optimization end of things. I have a preference for starting at 1st level and working my way up and creating high level characters is just a chore.

Sorry everyone and have fun storming the castle.

 

[ethandrew]

I think I am going to relinquish my spot to someone who will have more fun with optimization end of things.

Sorry everyone and have fun storming the castle.

Booooo! Stay in the game. Where do you need help?

So I think I'll do my little rogue guy, mayhaps I'll make him/her the face as well. And I guess I'll go without doing an awakened chimp. Sadness.

 

[crazy_monkey1956]

My creative energies just aren't up to the task of creating a high level character as I'm spending them on a couple of world creation projects, GMing three different tabletop campaigns, plus the various PbPs I'm GMing.

 

[Shayuri]

Crazy, maybe I could help? At the risk of sounding immodest, I'm pretty good with this level of playbuilding. You could give me a set of specifications, which I would then make sure to provide. Then I'd let you know what else he could do, and you could either approve, or ask for changes.

Wouldn't take long, I don't think.

 

[crazy_monkey1956]

Thanks for the offer.

However, see my latest Musings over on the Asylum for a more detailed version of where my creative and mental energies are going in the near future.

 

[Shayuri]

As you wish.

I think, in that case, I'll probably make my sorceror, since we'll definitely need an arcanist of one stripe or another.

Ethan, sorcs make decent faces too, if you don't want that pressure...though if you want to be face I'm fine with that too.

 

[Voda Vosa]

Okay...first off, warlocks can't be Fatespinners. The requirement for the class is "Able to cast 4rth level arcane spells." On Page 72 of Complete Arcane, this type of prereq is specifically not met by having invocations or spell like abilities, because it specifically references an ability to cast spells. This is as distinct from a "caster level" requirement, which IS met by invocations.

Damn! I'll have to dive in the PrC again!

Reasonable choices for a blast-focused warlock. Note that Eldritch Sculptor is an Epic feat, and as such you can't start with it.

Uhm yeah, I got confused and pasted it along with the others.

I dunno if I'd bother with Instill Vulnerability, since you can only use it on Vitriolic Blast and Chilling Tentacles...but it's not a big deal either way. I'm not familiar with Deteriorating Blast...and Relentless Dispelling will be of questionable utility, given the levels involved...but it looks pretty solid overall.

If so, any other dark invocations you can point me at? Deteriorating blast slowers the target SR each time it fails a wil save against the EB with this essence. As for relentless dispelling, I thouth at will dispelling would be nice.

 

[Shayuri]

Well, if you want Eldritch Sculptor at level 21, you'll need Eldritch Doom. It's the only Dark blast shape invocation there is.

Also, I think Penetrating Blast is the essence that reduces SR. Do you mean DR?

As for Relentless Dispelling, its weakness is that its based off of Dispel Magic, not Greater Dispel Magic. This means that the caster level check to dispel caps at +10.

That means a level 20 caster is effectively immune to your dispels. Even on a natural 20, you'd fail. At these levels you really need a Greater Dispel, of which the only invocation I'm aware of is Devour Magic, a Greater one that requires a melee touch attack to function.