Demon Lords

[BOZ]

yep

 

[Swordsage]

In the old DRAGON article "Rogue Stones and Gemjumping", Ed Greenwood noted a demon lord Argolcheir who was destroyed by Khelben Arunsun and a few other mages.

-- The Swordsage

 

[BOZ]

neat!

 

[Mystery Man]

In the old DRAGON article "Rogue Stones and Gemjumping", Ed Greenwood noted a demon lord Argolcheir who was destroyed by Khelben Arunsun and a few other mages.

-- The Swordsage

Dragon #116, Page 54.

 

[Razz]

So, besides those featured in the Book of Vile Darkness.

The ones in that book NEED to be in the Demonomicon. WotC never updated them to 3.5, and compared to the Demon Princes in Dragon, they suck. Dragon made the stats to the Demon Princes really deserving of a Demon Prince, like quasi-deities (the way they should be). I hope they redo Graz'zt, Demogorgon, Juiblex, Orcus, and Yeenoghu the correct way.

 

[Shemeska]

The ones in that book NEED to be in the Demonomicon. WotC never updated them to 3.5, and compared to the Demon Princes in Dragon, they suck. Dragon made the stats to the Demon Princes really deserving of a Demon Prince, like quasi-deities (the way they should be). I hope they redo Graz'zt, Demogorgon, Juiblex, Orcus, and Yeenoghu the correct way.

Those that previously had divine rank as outright deities, or equivalent without being true deities themselves, deserve to have that back after 3e stripped it of all of them. They're not just pit fiends or balors with a few extra hit dice that once you hit level 21 you can feel are legitimate targets to go hunt down and kill in their extraplanar dungeon. These are beings more primal than and in many cases older than the deities themselves, layers of lower planes personified, vices, sins, pains, diseases and other abstracts made manifest.

Demogorgon, Orcus, Anthraxus, the General of Gehenna, Asmodeus etc ... they're not just bigger badder fiends. They're something else entirely, and the game has lost the same atmosphere and mystique when they're just treated as bigger CR targets.

 

[The Serge]

In case anyone's interested, Dicefreaks has our Demonic Dictionary. Many of the demons were written based upon the three editions of D&D; even if you don't care for the stats (which are very epic), the flavor may fufill your interests. In most cases (at least with the ones I wrote) we can refer to the materials used to create the flavor.

 

[BOZ]

In the old DRAGON article "Rogue Stones and Gemjumping", Ed Greenwood noted a demon lord Argolcheir who was destroyed by Khelben Arunsun and a few other mages.

well, looked it up, and it seems he got killed pretty solidly, and is really little more than a footnote. c'est la vie for him!

 

[BOZ]

In case anyone's interested, Dicefreaks has our Demonic Dictionary. Many of the demons were written based upon the three editions of D&D; even if you don't care for the stats (which are very epic), the flavor may fufill your interests. In most cases (at least with the ones I wrote) we can refer to the materials used to create the flavor.

what sources (if any) did Apollyon, Merodach, Mormo, and Rahab come from?

 

[Patman21967]

I have an old boxed set from a 3rd party called Demons, that has tons. Drop me an email Boz, if you like, and I'll see if I can scan the stuff in, if you want to look at it.