Devoted Paladin and Healing Hands

[Delgar]

I was just wondering if these two powers stack?

They both add charisma to the paladin's lay on hands ability. Do they not stack because they add the same modifier?

If they don't, is Healing Hands just a worse version of Devoted Paladin?

Also, it says it only adds the bonus to allies, so that means that if the paladin uses his lay on hands ability on himself he doesn't get the bonus correct?

 

[Black Knight Irios]

I was just wondering if these two powers stack? - Yes, they stack.

They both add charisma to the paladin's lay on hands ability. Do they not stack because they add the same modifier? - Adding the same ability mod more than once is not uncommon in 4E.

If they don't, is Healing Hands just a worse version of Devoted Paladin? - Even with stacking you should know which one to take first.

Also, it says it only adds the bonus to allies, so that means that if the paladin uses his lay on hands ability on himself he doesn't get the bonus correct? - Yes.

Enjoy your buffed LoH.

 

[DracoSuave]

Of course, Healing Hands was never -that- good to begin with...

So I don't consider HH to be a worse DP... I consider DP to be a not-as-terrible HH.

The fact they stack? Eh. You're still only boosting a daily.

 

[Delgar]

Thanks for the quick response.

It wasn't all that critical, I was just curious. I have a Deva player in my campaign and were going to do a flashback dream couple of sessions where the group will be playing Paragon level characters (his Deva past life). He's maknig a paladin and asked if they stacked and I wasn't sure. But ultimately it didn't really seem all that broken.

 

[Black Knight Irios]

The fact they stack? Eh. You're still only boosting a daily.

Now you're talking like you can use LoH only 1/day, you can use it at least 1/day but depending on your WIS mod up to 10/day + Untiring Virtue (DP). HH + DP can increase the healing by up to 20 and Pious Champion (DP) can heal two targets with 1 LoH use.

I don't want to make it sound OP but you can get quite some healing out of LoH if you try.

 

[cdrcjsn]

They stack, but remember to check the wording of the abilities.

It only works for healing you give to others, not yourself.

 

[Droogie128]

They stack, but remember to check the wording of the abilities.

It only works for healing you give to allies, not yourself.

Fixed