Disarming a Bow with a Melee Weapon?

[Metalsmith]

The rules state you and the defender make opposed attack rolls with your respective weapons.
Does the Defender get +4 for Large Weapon (LongBow) +4 more for 2 Handed Weapons, + Magic Bow + Magic Arrows + Dex + Point Blank + Weapon Focus + Regular BAB?

WTF?

This can Eaisly outstrip the ability the Attacker would have to Disarm someone.

Input would be appreciated.


Metalsmith

 

[Xarlen]

When you're holding a bow, you're holding onto it with one hand, while the other is at the string. So, you only get the benefits from one hand. Holding it Two Weapon style negates the quick chance of using it as a bow.

No bonuses for a magical arrow. They can't draw it on your turn, so what're they doing with it in their hands anywho?

Point blank shot only works for Firing.

 

[Aust Diamondew]

Since he isn't attacking with the bow he would not get point blank shot bonuses, and since the arrows have nothing to do with the disarment of the bow he would not get their bonuses.

There for he only gets:
2 hands +4, Large weapon +4, Dex modifier +, BAB +, Enhance bonuses, Weapon focus +1

Not all that much. At least not anymore than a great sword wielding opponent.

 

[Gromm]

Personally I'd rather Sunder the bow.
Otherwise he'll probably just pick it up and keep shooting me. Plus the weapons size doesn't matter and bows have pretty terrible hit points and hardness.
As far as the question the arrows don't count, and while its technically a two handed weapon, I favor Xarlen's view that one hand is holding the string, but by the rules it is a two handed weapon.

 

[Dimwhit]

Personally I'd rather Sunder the bow.
Otherwise he'll probably just pick it up and keep shooting me. Plus the weapons size doesn't matter and bows have pretty terrible hit points and hardness.
As far as the question the arrows don't count, and while its technically a two handed weapon, I favor Xarlen's view that one hand is holding the string, but by the rules it is a two handed weapon.

Not only that, but since they don't threaten with a ranged weapon, they can't take the AoO on you when you try to sunder. For any DM who complains about archers being too good in combat, that's the answer. I should know...my DM finally got wise on me!

 

[Ranger REG]

Why sunder the bow when you can make the weapon inoperable by cutting the bowstring?

 

[Metalsmith]

When you're holding a bow, you're holding onto it with one hand, while the other is at the string. So, you only get the benefits from one hand. Holding it Two Weapon style negates the quick chance of using it as a bow.

No bonuses for a magical arrow. They can't draw it on your turn, so what're they doing with it in their hands anywho?

Point blank shot only works for Firing.

Lets see....
2 Hands, 1 on the Bow and 1 on the string, looks like using 2 hands to me. So he gets +4 for the 2 hander weapon. In Addtion because its a Large size weapon you have to use 2 hands to hold it beacuse its a Large weapon. So saying the string is not part of the bow is not going to work either.

Why not bonuses for the Magic Arrow? It says you make an attack roll. Enhancement bonuses form the arrow stack for attack rolls.

Point Blank: You get a +1 on attack and Damage rolls with ranged weapons at ranges up to 30 ft. Hmm, looks like the Archer is making an attack roll, Why doesn't get the +1 again?

Metalsmith

 

[Metalsmith]

Since he isn't attacking with the bow he would not get point blank shot bonuses, and since the arrows have nothing to do with the disarment of the bow he would not get their bonuses.

There for he only gets:
2 hands +4, Large weapon +4, Dex modifier +, BAB +, Enhance bonuses, Weapon focus +1

Not all that much. At least not anymore than a great sword wielding opponent.

Disrequarding the Magic Arrows again, +4 is alot more than the Great Sword. Not everybody runs around with great swords either, some people like having the extra AC from Shields.

Again with the Magic Arrows, Magic Arrows Stack for the purposes of Attacking. If people are thinking that perhaps you can argue the archer has no arrow ready then you can just not fire one of the arrows from the round prevoiusly if hes worried about getting disarmed.

Metalsmith.

 

[Metalsmith]

Personally I'd rather Sunder the bow.
Otherwise he'll probably just pick it up and keep shooting me. Plus the weapons size doesn't matter and bows have pretty terrible hit points and hardness.

Yep, Sunder the bow works, if it wasnt for that pesky additional +4 to AC the Sunder-er has to worry about. Also you have to be using a Weapon with a Enhancement bonuse equal to or better than the Bow. The final Crusher to the whole Sunder the Bow theory: You have to make opposed Attack rolls. So we're back where we started with the whole Disarm thing.

Just Disarming is eaiser cause they don't get harder to hit.

Metalsmith
(i dont mean to sound like a bdick)

 

[Metalsmith]

For any DM who complains about archers being too good in combat, that's the answer. I should know...my DM finally got wise on me!

If your GameMaster is trying to sunder your bow, buy a Magic one and see the above post.



Metalsmith