Dislike 4E? You can write off 5E

[Fifth Element]

Were the denials of work on 4e accurate in retrospect?

You're not talking about that quote from Mr. Rouse, are you? There was a thread debunking that one long ago.

Resultingly, perhaps it's not fair to expect a straight answer.

Quite right.

 

[rounser]

You're not talking about that quote from Mr. Rouse, are you? There was a thread debunking that one long ago.

Don't know about the Rouse thing. It was an actual question, not a rhetorical question. I didn't pay much attention to the topic at the time because it didn't interest me except in an "excitement for when the new edition was going to arrive" sense, IIRC. Was more interested in speculating on the content of a 4e than the when and how long it was developed for.

 

[Hunter In Darkness]

Look, it's straight from the horse's mouth, if this isn't just rumour, and I was hoping for a departure from the 4E design philosophy, not an evolution or refinement, and that's what he's effectively saying it won't be (a departure).

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This is me. There is to much about the 4e design I just dislike. Unless we are looking for a 3e to 4e style of radical departure I have zero interest in it.

 

[MichaelSomething]

One of the advantages of having a blog is that you can have your opinion on a topic pre-written.

5th Edition will come; someday.

 

[ShadowDenizen]

I wonder if 5e will have dragonboobs.

And monkeys!
Because, as we all know, monkeys make everything better.

 

[GMforPowergamers]

ok, so I hope that every R&D guy atleast thinks about 5e every once in a while. I mean phb2 is way more advanced in the way classes were desigined... phb3 I expect will be beyond that. Even if at most they looked at it as "If I was writeing up PHB1 today with everything I know how would X be diffrent?"

 

[w_earle_wheeler]

I've got a gut feeling. Psychic tendrils pouring through the internet. Protoplasm clones positioned in powerful places. Typhoid Aboleths doling out their collectible papers.

 

[El Mahdi]

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[Stalker0]

The only guarrantee I can make to you is that if WOTC's R&D is currently thinking about 5e, that 5e will not look like what R&D is thinking about right now.


Reviewing 4e's design history is a perfect example. The original concept of 4e was similar to Star Wars Saga Edition...but over time the system evolved into what we have today.

5e will go through the same process. It will start as X, and eventually evolve into the finished product Y.

And there's still a lot of development time to see what new mechanics come down the pipe.

Think about all the big design changes we got towards the end of 3e, swift and immediate actions, spells with variable casting times, magic items with codified levels, completely new models of spellcasting (such as the binder and the shadowcaster), a completely new model for martial classes with BO9S, tactical feats, etc. All of that happened in the last few years of 3rd edition.


Who knows what new 4e mechanics will evolve, and how many of those we might see polished in a 5th edition.

 

[korjik]

In before the thread gets closed. This is going to get ugly fast.

Anyways, I really hope they're not all ready putting the groundwork in for 5e. Considering how much it torpedoed things to have a new edition after 8 years, having a new edition even LESS than that isn't going to win them any friends, especially since they're putting work into recruiting new players with the Essentials.

Depends on what they do. I feel that 4e is starting to need a 4.5e. As in a major tweak to the system to get everything back in line.

Should they do that, it may not be all that bad. Even if they decide to call it 5th edition.

I do reserve the right to post 'I told you so' repeatedly tho, should that occur.