Do you like Warforged in your Forgotten Realms?

Warforged in FR? Great Idea or Terrible Idea?

  • Yes! This is a great idea!

    Votes: 30 15.5%
  • No! Terrible, just Terrible.

    Votes: 118 61.1%
  • Don't know what warforged are/Don't care about the FR.

    Votes: 24 12.4%
  • "You'll never take the city while I'm alive, monster." "Terms accepted." -OotS 440

    Votes: 21 10.9%


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Hobo said:
Well, arguably, that is the specialness of FR---how it loots other settings for anything vaguely interesting and adds them to itself.

Possibly true. Possibly also why, aside from the Red Wizards, I'm not terribly keen on FR. ;)

Hobo said:
Honestly, though, I see Warforged as something that could very easily and naturally find multiple homes in FR. As a Red Wizard invention, as an ancient Netheril invention recently rediscovered (not too unlike their place in Eberron in that case), as immigrants through one of FR's many portals that have now become native, etc.

Oh, I agree, they FIT just fine. It's not that putting them in FR takes something away from FR, it's that it takes some of the uniqueness from Eberron.

Hobo said:
What's so Eberron specific about the Warforged that they can only fit there? I'm not seeing [smallcaps]Eberron[/smallcaps] stamped in big letters on the warforged concept here. I think just about any D&D setting that follows the core rules as a baseline could accomodate warforged. It's only a small step from golems, shield guardians or even inevitables to get to the warforged after all.

For my purposes, the Eberron specific thing about them is that they come from Eberron, like superior-to-DMG IK firearms come from Caen. Both are limited resources that canny and/or unscrupulous Spelljamming factions can exploit by selling in markets where they're not notive. :)
 

Hobo said:
What's so Eberron specific about the Warforged that they can only fit there? I'm not seeing [smallcaps]Eberron[/smallcaps] stamped in big letters on the warforged concept here.
I won't embrace the word "only". But I do see a general theme of comic book superhero type core races in Eberron. So they fit more cleanly in that groove.

I think just about any D&D setting that follows the core rules as a baseline could accomodate warforged. It's only a small step from golems, shield guardians or even inevitables to get to the warforged after all.
One small step can be all it takes to fall off a cliff.

And this small step is big enough that the creature type is forced to change.
Make 'em constructs and you'll go a long way toward making me like them.
 

There are some elements that are "iconic" to settings, and really shouldn't be used in other settings. To me, Warforged are iconic to Ebberon and symbolize much of the internal conflict of that setting.

Eberron - Warforged
Dragonlance - White/Red/Black Orders of High Sorcery
Dark Sun - Perserver/Defiler magic
Planescape - Factions divided primarily by philosophy/world-view

You could use these ideas in other settings, but I would be very careful about doing so. To me they carry the extra "weight" of the entire setting they came from, and introduce connotations that you may not have meant to introduce.
 


Replace the name "Warforged" with sentient golem and I suspect many more would approve of them in any setting.

It's easy, just change the flavor (and In my case, make them look different.)
 

MoogleEmpMog said:
Oh, I agree, they FIT just fine. It's not that putting them in FR takes something away from FR, it's that it takes some of the uniqueness from Eberron.
Oh. Well, that is a more compelling argument (it seems to me) than the idea that they "can't fit" in FR.

Gotcha. That hadn't occured to me. Good point.
 

Treacherous_B said:
Am I the only one who thinks the Warforged are kinda lame in general? I hear a lot of love for them, but I'm just not sold on 'em myself.

It's not just you, i'm not a fan of them either. We're in the minority though :uhoh:
 

Warforged are one of my favourite parts of Eberron, but I think that they are very strongly tied to the history and feel of the Eberron setting and make a terrible addition to FR.
 

I voted "Yes! This is a great idea!" only under the assumption that they are not Warforged in the Eberron sense, but a quick set of rules for sentient golems. Like maybe found as companions or servants of powerful wizards.
 

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