Do you live in San Francisco? Can you help me help my game?

FCWesel

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I have a game set in SF, California, and I was looking for anyone who lives in that fair, yet foggy ;), city that could give me some "San Francisco" tips. What makes SF what it is? What things about the city can i make refrence to in passing that will give it life? What are the area like? What can you tell me that's interesting about one area, such as Nob Hill, for example. What is the feeling of the area?

I want to be able to make my players feel the living city that thier heroes are in. Thanks again for looking and posting!

~FCW~
 

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The thing that I fell in love with about San Francisco is the diversity of culture. On my second visit here, my girlfriend and I went to Chinatown on a weekday morning. We were the tallest, whitest people within two blocks, and for all intents and purposes we had become illiterate. It was a remarkable experience ... very difficult to adequately describe.

I live in the Sunset. The things about my neighborhood that stand out: its isolation from the rest of the City; Ocean Beach, and old men every 30 yards with huge surf-fishing poles stuck in the sand; fog so thick you can actually watch it rolling uphill from the Pacific Ocean; the southern edge of Golden Gate Park, which looks so primordial you can't help but expect to see and hear something from Jurassic Park; hills and concrete ... people who had lawns paved them over to have more room for parking; 80 percent Chinese, 10 percent Irish, 5 percent Russian, 5 percent "other" population; the N-Judah light-rail line sparking blue every time it hits a bump; Asian Catholic high school girls; the radio tower up in the heights; the smell of the ocean when the wind comes from the west ...

Greatest city in the world. No question. If I ever run a Mutants and Masterminds game, it'll be set right here.
 

Some entertaining notes: its a city that can change very quickly in only a few blocks.

From "The Financial District", (Transamerica building, among others) a few blocks' walk west along Market street (streetcars, no left turns) takes you to 'Union Square', a shopping mecca, and a few blocks further you're into a bit of a red-light district. There are homeless people everywhere, trash on the streets, etc; both north and south there's a lot of drug sales (the words 'The Tenderloin' should engender fear in your characters); when you reach city hall, though a gorgeous building, the surroundings near it are ugly and underwhelming. But just on the opposite side (now crossing Van Ness) are the concert halls and playhouses, with valet parking, etc. Travelling north up Van Ness you will find a bunch of car dealerships, hotels, and movie theaters.

Traditional tourist spots such as Lombard Street, Alcatraz, and the Golden Gate Bridge don't actually enter the denizen's lives too frequently; they are 'out of the way' of an average citizen, and a bit of traffic hazards. (Housing north of the Golden Gate Bridge, in Marin County, is much cheaper than housing in the city.)

For cultural diversity, Chinatown is pretty amazing; another culture shock can be had in the Mission district, which is primarily Latin; your Spanish speakers will get some good work there. Laundromats in the Mission are full of traditional household mothers with their girl children, but the streets are b

Haight Street (well to the western side of the city) may be a 'hippie' mecca, but it will also include a large number of youths. Its got a very diverse shopping district, from leather toys to hip clothing to tattoos and piercings to vintage; also some of the best variety of decently priced restaurants in the city. If your character's go to a bar in the Haight, let it be 'Hobson's Choice', a red building, dark-lit interior, crowded and exuberant (but never smoky - smoking is not permitted in California bars and restaurants)

Politics in the city are extremely liberal: the police aren't allowed to do much about the homeless problem because any proposed solution isn't "humane" enough; drug users are defined not to be the police focus, although they can and do go after importers.

In fact, unlike most California cities, there is very little freeway penetration: it is always voted down, and even rebuilding the portions of the freeway which collapsed in the 1989 quake has been prevented; car access around town is by surface street only, for the most part. There are, in fact, portions of the old freeway which are still standing, with an abrupt crumbled edge that marks where it collapsed: this would make a great backdrop for a battle.

Chinese New Year's feels like a city holiday, with a fantastic parade, and the Chinese love setting off (illegal) fireworks. The Gay Pride Parade is even more astounding for cultural conservatives, but is basically adopted by the youth of the city as an excuse to go party. Also, because the city is so surrounded by water, its a great place to go to view (legal) fireworks on American New Year's day, and again literally thousands of people show up to party in the streets with little legal enforcement. There is a bit of a U.S. Navy presence in town - the girls in the party will insist on getting out for Fleet Week, as thousands of sailors take to the streets and the Blue Angels entertain overhead. The 'Bay to Breakers' race is another excuse to have a large street party, as more people turn out to drink, dance, and party along the race route than actually run in the event.

Public transit: the "Muni" buses run everywhere - slowly. The old trolleys are primarily for tourists, but run up some of the steepest hills in town (north of Union Square). There's an underground - as mentioned above, the N-Judah connects the western extremes, such as the Haight, with downtown, including stops at City Hall, Union Square, and 'the Embarcadero' (financial district). It then turns south to go to the baseball stadium and Caltrain stop. There's also a surface streetcar, which runs along Market from the west, and then down Market past all of the same stops, then turns north through the Fisherman's Wharf section. (I kept writing Worf - too much star trek?) BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) connects from San Francisco Airport (about ten miles south of the city, Millbrae area) through the Mission district (24th and 16th streets) and then along the City Hall (Van Ness and Market, near 9th street), Union Square (5th street), and Embarcadero (past the end of the numbered streets), then heads under the bay to Oakland and points on that side of the bay. One can transfer from BART to the underground without ever leaving the stations. Caltrain runs from about the baseball stadium south, through Millbrae/SFO, Burlingame, San Mateo, Redwood City, Palo Alto, and then off into Silicon Valley, terminating at San Jose. There are also Ferrys that leave from Embarcadero (the Ferry Building) to points north, east, and south on the Bay.

The Bay Bridge, a great metal structure, runs east from the city to Oakland; the only freeway penetration takes the 101 north into the city, and then east as it becomes the 80 and crosses the Bridge. Interestingly, the pilings for the Bay Bridge did not get driven into solid rock: the entire structure is anchored in the mud at the bottom of the Bay! In 'the Big One', that structure is coming down, as is much of the city (east of the Caltrain Station, the land under the ballpark, the Embarcadero, and even parts of the Financial District is landfill, which will be very bad for the buildings on top of it...) There is work on completely building a new Bay Bridge, which nearly paralells the existing one (and in fact, will use the same tunnel on Angel Island) - anybody driving along the Bay Bridge can see the work on the new one, one of the largest engineering undertakings we've made in this century. Earthquake or interference with that construction could provide entertaining plot hook.

On the water, there are always container ships: Oakland and Alameda on the east side of the bay are tremendous ports, including the largest container-ship cranes in the world (when they were imported, at low tide, they cleared the Bay Bridge by just under two feet - that might be another thing you could play with).

Angel Island (off the coast of Marin, east of the Golden Gate Bridge) is a beautiful and limited campground; although a number of people will be there during the day, at night the island reduces to about twenty campers and two park wardens, which might make it an interesting rendevous-in-the-dark point for somebody.

There's a restaurant atop one of the hotels (56th floor or so), which slowly revolves, giving panoramic views of the city and bay beneath, a great high-class meeting point or launching point for an aerial adventure. Let your characters be shocked at the $10 price for a cocktail, and tell them the menu doesn't list prices. :)
 

WOW!

Jeff and Amaroq, thanks for your Great posts! This is exactly the type of stuff I was looking for. I am hoping that my wife and I can get out that way DEC or JAN maybe for our 9th Wedding Anniversary.

If you thnk of anything else, I would appreciate any additional posts.

So far the few games I have run have been kinda "blah" on the San Francisco theme. One I did, did involved Grace Cathederal, for which I found some pictures of online, but I am totally sure I did not express the true visual coolness of the place.

Thanks again!
 

Amaroq said:
... If your character's go to a bar in the Haight, let it be 'Hobson's Choice', a red building, dark-lit interior, crowded and exuberant (but never smoky - smoking is not permitted in California bars and restaurants)
And this law is usually enforced quite strictly across the state, particularly in the cities. There are a few places that make a tidy business on being the holdouts to the old ways, and in fact are routinely cited by the authorities for it. They just write it off as a business expense.

Amaroq said:
In fact, unlike most California cities, there is very little freeway penetration: it is always voted down, and even rebuilding the portions of the freeway which collapsed in the 1989 quake has been prevented; car access around town is by surface street only, for the most part. There are, in fact, portions of the old freeway which are still standing, with an abrupt crumbled edge that marks where it collapsed: this would make a great backdrop for a battle.
Rush Hour Traffic in and around San Francisco has eased since the Dot Com bust - there just aren't as many people going to work anymore. Sad, but also cool.

You might also look up the phenomenon known as 'Critical Mass' in which, on some Friday Afternoons, thousands of bicyclists take to the street and cause traffic problems. Originally politically motivated, there are now many who participate just to cause trouble.

Amaroq said:
It then turns south to go to the baseball stadium and Caltrain stop.

It's also worth noting that the San Francisco Giants (last year's NL Champs) play in one of the nicest stadiums in the MLB. Some of the top caterers in the city (known for its food, btw) have outlets there, selling everything from sushi to fresh clam chowder in a sourdough bread bowl. Good luck finding a hot dog and a cheap beer, though. Tickets are not cheap, either. For both those things, head across the bay and take in an A's game.

Amaroq said:
The Bay Bridge, a great metal structure, runs east from the city to Oakland; the only freeway penetration takes the 101 north into the city, and then east as it becomes the 80 and crosses the Bridge. Interestingly, the pilings for the Bay Bridge did not get driven into solid rock: the entire structure is anchored in the mud at the bottom of the Bay! In 'the Big One', that structure is coming down, as is much of the city (east of the Caltrain Station, the land under the ballpark, the Embarcadero, and even parts of the Financial District is landfill, which will be very bad for the buildings on top of it...) There is work on completely building a new Bay Bridge, which nearly paralells the existing one (and in fact, will use the same tunnel on Angel Island) - anybody driving along the Bay Bridge can see the work on the new one, one of the largest engineering undertakings we've made in this century. Earthquake or interference with that construction could provide entertaining plot hook.
They are actually only replacing the east half, I think. There is a website somewhere detailing the plans and progress of this project.

Amaroq said:
There's a restaurant atop one of the hotels (56th floor or so), which slowly revolves, giving panoramic views of the city and bay beneath, a great high-class meeting point or launching point for an aerial adventure. Let your characters be shocked at the $10 price for a cocktail, and tell them the menu doesn't list prices. :)

It's called the Equinox, and it's on top of the Hilton (I think). From this restaurant, you can see the Bay bridge but not the Golden Gate. But it's still really cool.


Best views in the city:
Nightime - treasure island (the island in the middle of the bay bridge) looking at the city at night.

Daytime - Legion of Honor (an art museum), looking down at the Golden Gate Bridge and the beach, and over to Marin county.


Events to be aware of:

Chinese new years
Bay to Breakers (both mentioned above)
Exotic Erotic Ball. An annual event (on halloween, I think), the city's sexy side shows off. Words can't do it justice, but people show up in just about everything or nothing at all. Leather, latex, leashes, makeup, nylon, silicone... it's a party and dance club, but mostly about being decadant and debauched.


SF Flavor:
Beach Blanket Babylon: the longest running show in SF, this satirical music revue is funny, fresh, and features really big hats. Leave your close-mindedness at the door. They are pretty equal-opportunity, though. Everybody gets skewered. They have been here so long (30+ years) that they now have their street named after them.

There are two art schools in town, one of which is the largest private art school in the US - the Academy of Art University (I'm an alum). They have a fleet of secondhand black school buses trundling art students around town 24/7, because they have no central campus. Classes are held in 20 or so different buildings all scattered around town. (FYI, the school and it's current director are among the largest landholders in the city)

Bike messengers. LOTS of bike messengers. Read Wm Gibson's Virtual Light for a near/dark future version of them.

Queers and Sex. SF is known for being one of the gayest cities in the world. The Castro district is kind of the epicenter - lots of rainbow flags, lots of alternative shops. See above under Exotic Erotic. Also look up Gavin Newsom (Our very straight but not narrow mayor) on the internet. Also look up the Good Vibrations Store (not work or child or grandma -friendly, unless you have a pretty cool grandma), one of the industry leaders in sex toys and sexual education in all its flavors.


Raiders fans vs. 49er's fans. Radiers fans are rabid, loyal, and tend to be from the East bay - Oakland and Alameda, specifically. They have been known to riot and shoot other Raiders fans. Raider apparel seems to frequently be associated with gangs and thugs. 49ers fans are mellow, laid back, and have been known to leave a game early to catch Sienfeld. The 49er's, however, featured two of the greatest quarterbacks in history. In a row, and won lots of Superbowls back in the day. Lately, they suck.

Real estate prices. During the dot com boom, there were select buildings in the Financial District renting office space for $90.


Per square foot.



And there was a waiting list.




Residential isn't much cheaper, and vacancy is low. It's a lot like Manhatten. For example, Monica's apartment on Friends, taken and set in SF somewhere, would fetch between $2000 and $4000 a month.



Hope that helps.
 


Another thing to remember is that outside of the Financial district, San Francisco has very few tall buildings. Most of them are 3-4 stories max. The further west you go the shorter the buildings get and the more residential things get. Not really a good city for Spiderman types to swing from building to building. San Francisco is also a very compact city. The city proper is only 7 miles by 7 miles.

Another thing to include is the abundance of restaurants, in some areas there are 5-6 different places to eat on each block and each one will serve a different cusine.

San Francisco is also home to UCSF one of the premer medical/graduate schools in the country. There is one large campus up on the hill under Koit Tower (the big radio tower up on the hill) another brand new campus is being built out at Mission Bay. Kind of a weird sight to see brand new science lab buildings popping out of an area filled with warehouses. Could be a good plot point for any biological based science plots.
 

Cool, good info.

I should get some skyline pics from the web. I have Microsoft STREETS98, (I know its old) but at least it has maps I can print up with various resteraunts and other sites and locations that I can choose to show or not, which is kinda helpful.

Thanks,

FCW
 


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