Do you want Tieflings in the phb?

[Wormwood]

I've played a medusa, an air elemental and a drider. And I've been in games with goblin, ogre, troll, stone giant, ghoul, vampire, rakshasa, barghest, slaad, chain devil, astral stalker and astral deva PCs.

Awesome!

I've seen goblins, hobgoblins, dopplegangers, svirfneblin and a halfling ghoul all played as PCs.

Hat's off!

 

[EricNoah]

Don't care either way.

 

[variant]

I've played a medusa, an air elemental and a drider. And I've been in games with goblin, ogre, troll, stone giant, ghoul, vampire, rakshasa, barghest, slaad, chain devil, astral stalker and astral deva PCs.

The only real problem was the lack of balance in Savage Species and the LA system.

Never in my life as a DM would I let my players play any of those.

 

[jeffh]

I'm not wild about really weird races myself, but a teifling isn't anywhere near as exotic a choice as some I've seen requested. As a rough guideline, if it's got opposable thumbs I'll at least consider it. I talked someone out of playing a unicorn once by making that point.

 

[Shadeydm]

I've played a medusa, an air elemental and a drider. And I've been in games with goblin, ogre, troll, stone giant, ghoul, vampire, rakshasa, barghest, slaad, chain devil, astral stalker and astral deva PCs.

The only real problem was the lack of balance in Savage Species and the LA system.

None of which were in the PHB which just goes to show we don't need tieflings in it either and people will still be able to play them.

 

[Felon]

Drizzt clones are a myth. I'd say for every actual Drizzt clone out there there are about 10,000 people who bash good-aligned drow because they think drow should be CE outsiders with alignment "REALLY always CE, no exceptions, ever" and think that everyone not agreeing is having badwrongfun.

Haven't had any Drizzt clone. Had more than a few good drow. Among them there were no rangers, not that much two-weapon fighting and no scimitars I can remember.

Like most folks who take pride in a close-minded stance, the folks going on about Drizz't clones don't really have their standards thought out that well. It doesn't have to be a dual-scimitar-wielding ranger. Doesn't even have to be good-aligned. Any drow PC is, to their mind, a Drizz't clone. Indeed, do we not have folks in this thread implying that a tiefling PC is only a step removed from being Drizz't clone?

 

[variant]

I'm not wild about really weird races myself, but a teifling isn't anywhere near as exotic a choice as some I've seen requested. As a rough guideline, if it's got opposable thumbs I'll at least consider it. I talked someone out of playing a unicorn once by making that point.

It is exotic enough to not waste precious page space on in the Core PHB.

 

[Wormwood]

It is exotic enough to not waste precious page space on in the Core PHB.

If space is an issue, just drop a couple of the Tolkien retreads.

I nominate anything with 'half' in its name.

 

[Kobold Avenger]

Would you people really feel comfortable if someone decided that they were going to play a Tiefling every single campaign?

I would be really comfortable if someone wanted to play a tiefling every campaign, or a Githzerai, or an elf, or a dwarf or whatever.

Elves and dwarves are in the 3e PHB and there aren't elf and dwarf feats in every book. Neither will there be Tiefling feats in every book.

And there's nothing "Teen angst" about tieflings, it's the players that make the characters too. You can choose to play a tiefling any way you want. They don't even have to be "emo" they could be all cheery and noble and oblivious to the fact that they are in fact part demon.

As a PC race they have a lot more variety in types, simply because there's at least 50 different types of fiends, if not more.

 

[Maliki]

Hell no!

Exactly.