Doctor Who Season 29 - What do you want to see?

[sniffles]

Sir Derek Jacobi as the Master - now that I would like to see!

 

[Kilmore]

I would like to see Susan again, preferably regenerated, badass, and looking to kick granpa's ass for ditching her on dalek wrecked earth.

No daleks, no cybermen, no Sarah Jane. As nice as that all was last time around, the Doctor Who mythos is so much richer than that.

Now, I would like to see the Sontarans and most definitely Zygons.

 

[Chaldfont]

You know what I think would be cool

- The Doctor learning that the Master is in fact a future regeneration of himself who has gone rogue (and of course overcome the 12 regens limitation)

Oh Holy sweet crap on a stick! That would be so cool.

I'm all for them bringing back The Master. They've done daleks and cybermen already. Time to bring back the best-named villain in all of Sci Fi. I really hoped they were doing that with the actor who played Giles on Buffy. He would have been a lot of fun.

You know who would make a good Master? David Hyde Pierce.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

I would like to see Susan again, preferably regenerated, badass, and looking to kick granpa's ass for ditching her on dalek wrecked earth.

They really should finish off that storyline. What happened to Susan? Dalek Invasion of Earth is a classic story and they should take a look at the outcome of that decision by the Doctor.

 

[Raven Crowking]

They really should finish off that storyline. What happened to Susan? Dalek Invasion of Earth is a classic story and they should take a look at the outcome of that decision by the Doctor.

Of course, Susan does make a re-appearance in The Five Doctors, after she is a grown woman, and she doesn't seem to be very angry at her grandfather at all. Remember, even by that point in the programme, it was established that the Doctor was at least somewhat telepathic (The Sensorites), so it is easy to believe that he is forcing Susan to make a decision that he knows she wants to make, but is not making for fear of hurting him.

Also, since not every Gallifreyan is a Time Lord, and since she undoubtably did not complete one of the Colleges prior to travelling with the Doctor, you'd have to spin a yarn that got her back to Gallifrey, that put her through one of the Colleges, and also explained why (under those circumstances) she survived the Time War if you wanted a regenerated Susan. It could be done, but it would need more than a two-parter IMHO!

RC

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

I forgot about the Five Doctors. But Sara Jane didn't seem to have memory of it during the series either so maybe that didn't happen in regular time or something? Its really better if we all just forget it though...

Why would she have to be regenerated? Doc could go back to a year or so later and see how she is doing...cue story about future Cardiff, err...Earth with all kinds of possibilities. Get a 16-17 year old cute girl to play the role and viola! That way he could be the last of the Time Lords still and she could still be alive.

 

[Raven Crowking]

I forgot about the Five Doctors. But Sara Jane didn't seem to have memory of it during the series either so maybe that didn't happen in regular time or something? Its really better if we all just forget it though...

Well, in the universe of Doctor Who, there are five basic dimensions that a TARDIS is involved with. If the fourth is time, and the fifth was translated by the TARDIS as "space" (An Unearthly Child) I would suggest that the fifth is actually some sort of additional time dimension. Something can occur in the past from the standpoint of the 4th dimension, but still be in the present or the future from the standpoint of the 5th. It hasn't happened yet.

(This is how, IMHO, the time/space telephone the 9th Doctor gives Rose works, or the time/space telegraph that the 4th Doctor gave the Brigadier. It would also explain why Gallifrey is always approached in the "present" -- it travels along the same 5th-dimensional plane as the TARDISes do -- why encounters with other Time Lords are always sequential barring breakdowns in the equipment or world-threatening events, the 5th Doctor's comments in Mawdryn Undead to the effect that the past and future were happening at the same time, how the 7th Doctor could know the Rani's age in Time and the Rani by knowing his own, and a whole slew of other things.)

Why would she have to be regenerated? Doc could go back to a year or so later and see how she is doing...cue story about future Cardiff, err...Earth with all kinds of possibilities. Get a 16-17 year old cute girl to play the role and viola! That way he could be the last of the Time Lords still and she could still be alive.

Kilmore had suggested the regeneration. You would also have to take into account the older version of Susan in The Five Doctors, because bopping around like that in someone's personal history seems to carry some potentially catastrophic consequences. Of course, after the Time War, it might be possible....!

The continuity of time has been altered more than once in the history of Doctor Who. As the future the programme predicted failed to materialize (where are those astronaut fairs and slidewalks, anyway?) several attempts were made to reboot the universe. The Key to Time storylines allowed the universe to stop and be adjusted. The Black Guardian trilogy with the 5th Doctor (Terminus, Mawdryn Undead, and Enlightenment) seems to have allowed a simular change. Around the time of the 7th Doctor, we began to hear throwaway lines about how humans failed to remember all the adventures the Doctor had been in on Earth, but it is equally possible that the changes made in the previously mentioned stories altered history somewhat for the 4th-dimensional universe if not for the 5th-dimensional Doctor and those travelling with him.

In the aftermath of The Long Game the history of the 4th Great and Bountiful Human Empire is definitely changed, as is earth history, by the actions of the 9th Doctor and the daleks. It is also obvious that the Time War was meant as a way of rebooting the future and the past to allow new stories to be told that don't automatically follow the same continuity. The universe that the Doctor inhabits is adjusted to be slightly closer to our own.

The daleks have time travel, and they are not always encountered sequentially. This indicates that their time travel has properties that the Time Lords cannot control. It seems obvious to me that, in order to destroy the daleks, the Time Lords must destroy them in all time frames. It is reasonable to believe that only species with at least rudimentary time travel capability even retain the ability to know that the daleks -- or the Time Lords -- even existed.

That begs the question -- does the future that Susan was left in even exist? Or did the Time War simply delete that part of history? And if history did change, resulting in a different future, wouldn't Susan's being there become a paradox? Enter the reavers.

Personally, I think Susan perished in the Time War. Not because she fought. She was simply a civilian casualty. If they did bring her back, I'd prefer it as a non-corporeal being like the Gelth or the Wire (results of the Time War), that the Doctor would have to try to save.

RC

 

[Raven Crowking]

I wouldn't mind seeing the Macra. I bet with modern effects this could be a fun monster.

 

[sniffles]

I somehow doubt that there will be any going back to Susan or explanation of what happened to her. That was covered in one of the BBC novels, and they seem to be avoiding covering the same territory in the series. Although the destruction of Gallifrey does mimic something that happened in the books, though not in the same way.

I don't mind if they don't keep their continuity all neat and tidy. It's a time travel story, so I expect it to contradict itself and get confusing. It makes lots of fodder for people who like to try to make everything sensible, too. There's a big section of Outpost Gallifrey that deals with all the different histories that have been told through the tv series, the books, the audio adventures, the comics, and other sources.

 

[Flexor the Mighty!]

Actually a guy on another board I frequent has pointed out a ton of ideas swiped from the novels and audios. Heck Dalek was a "rip off" of the audio Juiblee in some ways. I was really hoping "Spare Parts" was going to be adapted for the Cyberman 2 parter, alas it was thanked for some reason in the credits but wasn't really mined for ideas at all. Too bad, an incredible audio and unlike the Cyberman story it didn't suck.

On that note I have to say it is a crime that Paul McGann was never given a real shot on TV. He is simply fantastic in the audios. He nails the Doctor better than anyone since Tom Baker IMO. Chimes of Midnight in particular cries out for a TV adaption. Alas...