D&D General Does Lessons of the First One -> Magic Initiate count as Warlock spells?

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Does Lessons of the First One -> Magic Initiate count as Warlock spells?

"If another Warlock feature gives spells that you always have prepared... count as Warlock spell"

Lessons of the First One: "gain one Origin feat"

Magic Initiate: "You learn two cantrips"


I.e. can I get Thorn Whip, cast it with Int, and add Repelling Blast to it?
 
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Read the original feat. But I think it doesn't.
I would say not. The feat makes a big deal about using the wizard, cleric or druid spell list. So your warlock was initiated into druidic mysteries, but that's separate from their ability to use warlock abilities.
RAW i think no, but RAI I think it would be fine and not unbalanced.
Any other spell gotten from an invocation would be a Warlock spell. I.e. Mask or Many Faces.

Not saying your wrong, but what's your reasoning?
If I recall correctly, the only way to do what I think you're looking for is to snag Pact of the Tome via the Eldritch Adept feat.
Sure, but that uses Cha.
 

Any other spell gotten from an invocation would be a Warlock spell. I.e. Mask or Many Faces.

Not saying your wrong, but what's your reasoning?

Sure, but that uses Cha.

Well there's occasional interaction with things like potent cantrip and green flame blade/booming blade.

Arcane clerics not to bad because of that.
 


What counts as a class spell? Spells that are on the class's spell list. What else counts as a class spell? Whatever the class says counts.

The Sorcerer's Spellcasting feature says that if another Sorcerer features gives you additional always prepared spells, those spells count as Sorcerer spells. Hey look, most of the subclasses have one of those. The Cleric's Spellcasting feature has the same clause for the same reason. As does the Warlock's Pact Magic.

The wording is nearly the same. "If another Warlock feature gives you spells that you always have prepared, those spells don't count against the number of spells you can prepare with this feature, but those spells otherwise count as Warlock spells for you." The operative clause is, "spells that you always have prepared".

That covers the standard subclass [Patron] Spells feature. Does it cover invocations too? Well... probably not, by the RAW. The wording on all the at-will spell invocations is "You can cast [Spell Name] without expending a spell slot." Nothing about having it always prepared and available to cast with your Pact Magic slots. What about Lessons of the First Ones for Magic Initiate? Again, probably not by the RAW. LotFO is a Warlock feature that grants an Origin Feat. What that feat does is its own business, the Warlock feature granted a feat, not spells.
 

Definitely a “no” for that one. Wording is pretty clear in both the feat descriptions and the warlock abilities that do grant warlock spells. If it doesn’t say “counts as a warlock spell to you” it ain’t a warlock spell.
 

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