After the announcement of the upcoming revision, I've been delving into the Zweihander starter box (which I backed long ago on KS). It's really an excellent product.EN publishing, Humblewood, Free League, Paizo, Warhammer, Zweinhandler (sp?) Warhammer, plus others also have box sets. They are often starter sets but not always. They've been making a comeback. I love box sets!