Dragonborn: Boobs or No Boobs?

[Mad Mac]

After having a chance to look at Races and Classes, I'll have to vote in favor of boobs, for mostly aesthetic reasons.

Simply put, the 4th Edition Dragonborn have been designed with a humanlike bodyshape, unlike Lizardfolk, Kobolds, or Trogs, which all have much more reptile-like bodies. Erasing boobs on the female Dragonborn while keeping them remotely the way they are now would just look bad.

It's not like they're going to completely redo the art direction at this point anyway, so we're pretty much stuck with boobs, like them or not.

 

[I'm A Banana]

Er, no. That kind of stuff needlessly confuses Nice Guys (TM), making them even more annoying. My paladin prefers full plate.

Whose your designer? I think Marc Jacobs has a line of full plate, right?

And of course, one must always have a Coach Bag of Holding.

...fashion jokes on an internet D&D message board....methinks perhaps I have aimed too high.

 

[ZappoHisbane]

You never see animalistic humanoids with 8 boobs. They only have two. Realism has already been tossed out the door. Let the Dragonborn enjoy their boobs.

Apparently you haven't visited the furry sections of various art gallery sites.

Oh, and a no boobs vote from me. I'm leaning my hopes towards a heavily matriarchal society in fact, where the females are more 'masculine' than the males. If the fluff doesn't support me on that, it's easy enough to make a quick swap on the height/weight tables.

 

[Zweischneid]

You knew it couldn't have been any other way

 

[Aloïsius]

This is ridiculous.

 

[Wyrmshadows]

If I may add to this melange of opinion.

If dragonborn females suckle their young after their born, or hatch or whatever, then they should have boobs. I don't care if they are repitilian, mammalian or whatnot, the only question is "Do they suckle their young?"

If they suckle their young, then boobs are fine and I think it an interesting twist to have such a sauroid looking race be divergent enough to suckle its young.

If the dragonborn female doesn't suckle her young and they hatch, like young dragons, fully capable of tearing the throat out of the closest pey animal offered to them, then boobs are nothing more than a bizarre add on that is serving what is IMO a juvenile aesthetic.

Yes, I did call it juvenile and along with that, its an unsophisticated view of things that would demand that a creature that is so divergent from human (unlike elves, halflings, dwarves or even orcs and goblins) must be portrayed with human secondary sexual characteristics for the sake of "accessibility" or some other such nonsense. RPing gamers are by and large intelligent and hopefully mature enough to accept a more realistic appearing sauroid female creature.

The only gamer I could imagine saying, "That's a girl, where are the boobs?" in regards to a dragonborn are under the age of 14 to be sure. I could easily explain to my 9yr old son the following:

Son: "She's not a girl, she doesn't have boobs."

Me: "Well, you've seen dragons in paintings and in movies and you saw that they, like other creatures that at least appear reptilian like alligators, lizards or dinosaurs, don't have boobs. Dragonborn are related to dragons and don't have boobs either."

Son: "Oh, ok."

That is as complex as the conversation would need to get. If someone above the age of 11 cannot grasp this simple argument, then they have more issues than whether or not dragonborn have boobs.

And honestly, the only argument in favor of boobs on the dragonborn, if they don't suckle their young, is "Its D&D man, it doesn't have to make sense." Of course this is the worst kind of argument because it implies that fantasy equal absurdity when in fact it does not by necessity have to and that the individual making this argument doesn't really have one.



Wyrmshadows

 

[dravot]

Even the male dragonborn should have boobs.

 

[Nightmare Toilet]

Well, people can always houserule whichever way they want, but I think the basics is that dragons are cool, beauty (breasts done properly) is good, so put them together or it just misses it.

But then we do have half-dragonesses, which I think should just be the race used as "dragonborn", like if a society purposefully used magic or some pacts with dragons to make themselves a society of half dragons.

And now onto female illthids. Yes I know, but... Illithids are cool. Beauty = Breasts is good, so naturaly, illithid women get breasts, or at least half-illithids do, and I say make them a core race! : ) Nymph-illithid-dragonborn gestalt with breasts as a core race = yes! : )

 

[Imp]

That thing is pretty ridiculous.

They don't even have tails?

 

[Zweischneid]

That thing is pretty ridiculous.

They don't even have tails?

Of course... tails obviously went to Tieflings. Got to respect the niches lest the Rangers will seek to tank, the Rogues to lead and the world come crashing to its bitter end...