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If you mean this thread still going on, I agree.Aloïsius said:
Dragonborn: Boobs or No Boobs?
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HeavenShallBurn
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They really should have given them tails, Dragonmen just don't look right without tails.
As I detest dragonborn, slaadi and most frog/toad-like races I went for the thigh man response.
Dragonborn and Tolkien's little people will not be in my campaigns.
Dragonborn and Tolkien's little people will not be in my campaigns.
Was Io a horney ole bastard or do Breasts have a purpose on Female Dargonborn ???
Dont get me wrong I'm sure trying to differntiate male/female between 2 non huan races isnt the easiest thing but I'm curious to understand the rational behind it.
Now I'm going for at least a semi serious discussion *fingers crossed*
Now assuming that dragonborn were created when dragons were and were created by the same god, and that they both hatched from an egg why the breasts.
Do Female Dragonborn Rear thier young after they hatch. A reptillian sterotype would suggest this dosent happen and giving the fast growth of dragonborn its unlikely that a baby dragonborn wouldn't be like most reptiles and start life as a carnivor. Thus Breasts are probably not there to feed the young. Besides based on the pictures the mouth looks more like a hard beak with a long lip line good for taking big bytes but not so good for creating an airtight seal for suction
Ok so why else are they there ? Did Io look as other exiting races and simply decide he needed a nice obvious way of telling male/female apart ? This also seems unlikely as male/female true dragons dont have this difference, somehow a female Red dragon with breasts would look odd and a more relaistic cow like udder would make it lose some of its terror no ? So perhaps not a God's descision
Evolution ? Did a mutation arise in the population that male dragonborn found appealing ? Pure an astheitc desire ? again unlikely , besides this would lead to male dragonborn being just as interested in other races full figured females. again unlikely.
Was Io just a dirty ole bastard god who simply got his jollies off that way. Possibly, God are fickle somtimes but it really wouldt cut it for me as a valid explanation.
Perhaps there's somthing I've missed feel free to enlighten me why you think they should or should have a nice rack. (Yes I think we can agree that a portion of the population would just say they look better that way which is fine, I'm interested in an valid RP reason.)
e.g. why do dragons have big teeth? for show ? hell no! all the better to BITE YOU WITH !
On a side note I wonder if the dev team considered using a real world exmaple of seperating male/female. In the animal world its quite common for males to be brightly coloured with crests and the like while the females are foten brown and pale. The males attrativeness is dependant on how magnificant he looks to the females.
Why could we not have something similar for Dragonborn, it could work for either males or females. The Physical shapes would be the same between male and female , with one potenitally larger on average than the other. Thus the only real way to tell them appart would be one of them to have plumage or flahses or colour , more refelective scales a head with much larger prominant and more intimdating horns, perhaps females have no major head horns. flpas of brightly coloured skin in the males tails they could flare out and display in a similar way a male peakcock can , but in a more cool dragon type way. So just curious why it was decided that a simple pair of Breasts was going to tell them apart ?
Dont get me wrong I'm sure trying to differntiate male/female between 2 non huan races isnt the easiest thing but I'm curious to understand the rational behind it.
Now I'm going for at least a semi serious discussion *fingers crossed*
Now assuming that dragonborn were created when dragons were and were created by the same god, and that they both hatched from an egg why the breasts.
Do Female Dragonborn Rear thier young after they hatch. A reptillian sterotype would suggest this dosent happen and giving the fast growth of dragonborn its unlikely that a baby dragonborn wouldn't be like most reptiles and start life as a carnivor. Thus Breasts are probably not there to feed the young. Besides based on the pictures the mouth looks more like a hard beak with a long lip line good for taking big bytes but not so good for creating an airtight seal for suction
Ok so why else are they there ? Did Io look as other exiting races and simply decide he needed a nice obvious way of telling male/female apart ? This also seems unlikely as male/female true dragons dont have this difference, somehow a female Red dragon with breasts would look odd and a more relaistic cow like udder would make it lose some of its terror no ? So perhaps not a God's descision
Evolution ? Did a mutation arise in the population that male dragonborn found appealing ? Pure an astheitc desire ? again unlikely , besides this would lead to male dragonborn being just as interested in other races full figured females. again unlikely.
Was Io just a dirty ole bastard god who simply got his jollies off that way. Possibly, God are fickle somtimes but it really wouldt cut it for me as a valid explanation.
Perhaps there's somthing I've missed feel free to enlighten me why you think they should or should have a nice rack. (Yes I think we can agree that a portion of the population would just say they look better that way which is fine, I'm interested in an valid RP reason.)
e.g. why do dragons have big teeth? for show ? hell no! all the better to BITE YOU WITH !
On a side note I wonder if the dev team considered using a real world exmaple of seperating male/female. In the animal world its quite common for males to be brightly coloured with crests and the like while the females are foten brown and pale. The males attrativeness is dependant on how magnificant he looks to the females.
Why could we not have something similar for Dragonborn, it could work for either males or females. The Physical shapes would be the same between male and female , with one potenitally larger on average than the other. Thus the only real way to tell them appart would be one of them to have plumage or flahses or colour , more refelective scales a head with much larger prominant and more intimdating horns, perhaps females have no major head horns. flpas of brightly coloured skin in the males tails they could flare out and display in a similar way a male peakcock can , but in a more cool dragon type way. So just curious why it was decided that a simple pair of Breasts was going to tell them apart ?
Xethreau
Josh Gentry - Author, Wanderer
For someone hoping for a serious discussion, your thread name could be a bit more tone appropriate....
From a game's point of view, I think dragonborn females with breasts is fine. We don't know that they have nipples though; for all we know it could be a culture thing for women to cover their chest (which is all it ever was, wasn't it?)
From the "Io as creator" point of view... I really can't be sure what he was thinking. Perhaps other races were already created (unlikely) and he modeled his creation after them. Or conversely, the other race's design might be based on the Dragonborn, but made to fit the needs and wants of the other gods. What a twist!
From a game's point of view, I think dragonborn females with breasts is fine. We don't know that they have nipples though; for all we know it could be a culture thing for women to cover their chest (which is all it ever was, wasn't it?)
From the "Io as creator" point of view... I really can't be sure what he was thinking. Perhaps other races were already created (unlikely) and he modeled his creation after them. Or conversely, the other race's design might be based on the Dragonborn, but made to fit the needs and wants of the other gods. What a twist!
RyukenAngel said:
I'm pretty sure I said semi-serious
,hence the not completly serious tone of heading.Amusing reasons are no less valid than completly seriou ones and I choose not to exclude them from this thread. hell somone might come up with somthing of a cosmic joke amoung gods as to why they are there which is acutally well though out enough to be a reasonable RP reason.
On a semi amusing note
Who to say the breasts are not a recent additon (by recent still before modern recorded history unknown to 99.99% of the population) and somewhat of a sore point amoung the dragonborn. The current dragonborn gods fear that their race could die out and thus altered females slightly to enable crossbreeding with other mamallian species to ensure they would always have followers even if they are not longer 100% dragonborn. The Some dragonborn of course would see this as an abombination and although they cant kill all thier females as that really would end them they dont look to kindly on weak man mammals eyeing off thier females
Who to say the breasts are not a recent additon (by recent still before modern recorded history unknown to 99.99% of the population) and somewhat of a sore point amoung the dragonborn. The current dragonborn gods fear that their race could die out and thus altered females slightly to enable crossbreeding with other mamallian species to ensure they would always have followers even if they are not longer 100% dragonborn. The Some dragonborn of course would see this as an abombination and although they cant kill all thier females as that really would end them they dont look to kindly on weak man mammals eyeing off thier females
Right, so first off to just get on the right page...they lay eggs...the eggs hatch...Dragonborn chicks got melons.
Okay, hows this..
Yes, post hatching, they do breast-feed their young. The kids DO mature much faster, but they also likely require a LOT more calories and nutrients due to the rapid development. Whats a year or two in normal children they accomplish in 3 months or so. All the fuel for that development has to come from somewhere, and while starting junior out with half a cow to chew on when he gets hungry may work for true dragons, Dragonborn are somewhat humanoid as well, and humans require alot of nutrients and the like for the best development. Things that maybe other sources cant give them. THUS, dragonborn women have breasts for breast feeding their youngsters because the milk is likely a far better source of nutrition for them than an entire bucket of cow or goats milk every few hours. Its also likely the consistency of mud...but thats just me thinking this out just a bit TOO far...
The trick isnt to look at them as lizard people, but rather to look at them as People with reptilian qualities. Conception is likely mammalian cause everyone knows hot kinky lizard person sex is all the rage these days. The birthing is reptilian, cause the dagonborn women have to watch their girlish figure. Nutrition is mammalian cause hot kinky lizard person sex just isnt the same without boobs, and growth and instincts are somewhat reptilian, because they develop so quickly.
So yeah, im a sad sad person for thinking that all the way out. Im even more ashamed that I went and joined the forum purely so I could throw this out there to be read. Ill just go back to lurking now.
Okay, hows this..
Yes, post hatching, they do breast-feed their young. The kids DO mature much faster, but they also likely require a LOT more calories and nutrients due to the rapid development. Whats a year or two in normal children they accomplish in 3 months or so. All the fuel for that development has to come from somewhere, and while starting junior out with half a cow to chew on when he gets hungry may work for true dragons, Dragonborn are somewhat humanoid as well, and humans require alot of nutrients and the like for the best development. Things that maybe other sources cant give them. THUS, dragonborn women have breasts for breast feeding their youngsters because the milk is likely a far better source of nutrition for them than an entire bucket of cow or goats milk every few hours. Its also likely the consistency of mud...but thats just me thinking this out just a bit TOO far...
The trick isnt to look at them as lizard people, but rather to look at them as People with reptilian qualities. Conception is likely mammalian cause everyone knows hot kinky lizard person sex is all the rage these days. The birthing is reptilian, cause the dagonborn women have to watch their girlish figure. Nutrition is mammalian cause hot kinky lizard person sex just isnt the same without boobs, and growth and instincts are somewhat reptilian, because they develop so quickly.
So yeah, im a sad sad person for thinking that all the way out. Im even more ashamed that I went and joined the forum purely so I could throw this out there to be read. Ill just go back to lurking now.
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