Dragonlance [Dragonlance/Faerun] Anyone here met any Cataclysm/Wall of the Faithless defenders?

[Chaosmancer]

Just throwing this out there, from pages 46-47 of Power of Faerûn (affiliate link):

Wow

 

[glass]

Mystra (the middle one)

I am only aware of two Mystras, but there being a middle one implies at least three. What am I missing? EDIT: Seems like @Iry was counting Mystryl as "a" Mystra.

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glass.

 

[Voadam]

I am only aware of two Mystras, but there being a middle one implies at least three. What am I missing?

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Mystryl, then Mystra, then Midnight turned Mystra, as far as I know. So I'd guess the first Mystra is the middle goddess of Magic chronologically.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Perhaps this excerpt will help, also from Crucible: The Trial of Cyric the Mad (set shortly before the aforementioned piece from a few pages back). Of course, note that this is written in the first person by Malik el Sami yn Nasser, Cyric's most devoted worshiper (who often refers to him as "the One and All"):

That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.

Empty Night, apparently Kelemvor is a fracking dunce.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

I am only aware of two Mystras, but there being a middle one implies at least three. What am I missing?

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The first one was technically Mystryl or whatever, and she sacrificed herself to save the world when the Netheril guy tried to cast a 20th level spell or some such to become a god and so she put her power into a mentally disabled shepherdess, I think? Anyway the girl became Mystra, the second goddess of magic.

 

[Eltab]

That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read.

Empty Night, apparently Kelemvor is a fracking dunce.

Cyric IS the god of lies and strife (among other unsavory things).
His chief worshipper would be among the most "unreliable narrator"s to be found.

 

[Chaosmancer]

Cyric IS the god of lies and strife (among other unsavory things).
His chief worshipper would be among the most "unreliable narrator"s to be found.

True, but if we are meant to take this as the reasoning Kelemvor had....

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Cyric IS the god of lies and strife (among other unsavory things).
His chief worshipper would be among the most "unreliable narrator"s to be found.

unreliable narrators is the only hope for any of this Wall stuff, tbh.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

True, but if we are meant to take this as the reasoning Kelemvor had....

Yeah, like...if death holds no fear....the brave won't try to avoid death?

What the actual butt?

He thinks brave people don't throw their lives away uselessly because they're too afraid of death!?

Nothing about that scene makes any sense, start to finish. It's almost nakedly an attempt to gloss over any rational thought in order to get to a prescribed destination.

 

[Chaosmancer]

Yeah, like...if death holds no fear....the brave won't try to avoid death?

What the actual butt?

He thinks brave people don't throw their lives away uselessly because they're too afraid of death!?

Nothing about that scene makes any sense, start to finish. It's almost nakedly an attempt to gloss over any rational thought in order to get to a prescribed destination.

I mean, to be fair, there is a long tradition of "if the afterlife is better than Life, why do people want to live" and I think that was where they were wanting to go, but the fact that Kelemvor clearly doesn't agree with this guy saying that he deserves a reward shows how flawed the logic is to start with.