D&D (2024) Dual Wielding

[fluffybunbunkittens]

Sling is still lame - its only advantage being that it's one-handed.

And you cannot reload it without a free hand, so uhh.

The issue comes when a single-classed rogue takes magic adept but I guess it's not enough of an issue to crack down on now that eldritch blast is off the table.

Seeing how Eldritch Blast cannot sneak attack, that'd be a pretty poor Rogue!

 

[Pauln6]

And you cannot reload it without a free hand, so uhh.


Seeing how Eldritch Blast cannot sneak attack, that'd be a pretty poor Rogue!

A sling is so small, and light, I don't think I would enforce the requirement that an empty sling required a second free hand but you make a very valid point RAW!

Yeah the issue with Eldritch Blast was more of a general one. It does look like True Strike should stack but the 'problem' cantrips from Sword Coast that use melee attacks might yet be re-worded to limit SA synergy, I suppose. I might have restricted cunning strikes to 'when you use your attack action to deal sneak attack damage' to try and avoid stacking spell damage, sneak attack, and cunning strike riders. I suppose that would limit reaction riders.

Nick would not stack with spells using the magic action though so that is one limitation.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

Nick would not stack with spells using the magic action though so that is one limitation.

And that's exactly why blade cantrip sneak attacks aren't a problem.

Cantripper is making one bigger single attack.
Nicker is making two attacks, and has the option of picking up Dual-Wielder for 3rd.

The latter has the reliability (of landing their sneak attack in the first place) on their side, and can have a higher damage ceiling (if all attacks hit, if they have a buff on them/their weapons that gives extra damage on every hit), and can split their damage multiple ways in cases where their first hit was enough to drop a target.

 

[Pauln6]

And that's exactly why blade cantrip sneak attacks aren't a problem.

Cantripper is making one bigger single attack.
Nicker is making two attacks, and has the option of picking up Dual-Wielder for 3rd.

The latter has the reliability (of landing their sneak attack in the first place) on their side, and can have a higher damage ceiling (if all attacks hit, if they have a buff on them/their weapons that gives extra damage on every hit), and can split their damage multiple ways in cases where their first hit was enough to drop a target.

Also, finally the scimitar of speed isn't so lame.

 

[clearstream]

Always rapier has the advantage of always chaining vex with a slightly higher damage die.

If you use nick, one attack was made without advantage.

I intended, morally.

 

[ECMO3]

Yep, I'm a firm believer in Fighter/Rogues! Works both ways, either as a dip or a more equal arrangement.

And Paladin/Ranger/Rogue, who do get weapon masteries but only two of them, do really benefit from multiclassing with someone else with them, because you often do want that 3rd weapon option.

I really like Rangers with 1 level of Monk TBH. Super easy in terms of ability requirements, boosts damage with daggers, allows a bunch of simple weapons on dexterity and provides a bonus action attack which can be in addition to Nick or used after you do something else with your action (like cast a spell).

Also Rogue with 1 level of Ranger and Rogue with 1 level of Paladin work really well if you take Arcane Trickster multiclass.