The_Gneech
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Ulrick said:"This really temps me to quit the hobby."
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Just keep repeating to yourself: "It's just a book, it can't hurt me. It's just a book, it can't hurt me."
-The Gneech
Dungeon Master's Guide II
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Just keep repeating to yourself: "It's just a book, it can't hurt me. It's just a book, it can't hurt me."
-The Gneech
Henry
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Not to pick on Ulrick, but I have a legitimate question: Is gaming the only hobby that evokes this reaction so often? What is it about gaming that causes people to want to give it up, the more product that's released for it?
Are there sports fans who want to quit if a new team is added to the league they follow? Is it because it's perceived that it is growing too complicated to keep track of? Or is it some form of commercialism disillusionment?
To me, if a product isn't released that I don't like, I don't intend to quit the hobby. It doesn't matter if not a single gaming company releases a single product that I don't like in a year's time - the only way I'll quit the hobby is death or extreme circumstances, because I know that the market is always changing, and as long as I have breath and a gaming group, I'll continue. Eventually new products will come along that excite me, and even if there are NO gamers around (let's say every single one of my gamer friends move away, and nothing's released for a year) I'll still comb message boards, still re-read my old stuff, create characters on rainy days, move on with the other business of life, and re-start myself as soon as opportunity knocks.
Then again, maybe I'm the one who needs help.
I'll be the one in the nursing home, cajoling the other geezers into a game...
Are there sports fans who want to quit if a new team is added to the league they follow? Is it because it's perceived that it is growing too complicated to keep track of? Or is it some form of commercialism disillusionment?
To me, if a product isn't released that I don't like, I don't intend to quit the hobby. It doesn't matter if not a single gaming company releases a single product that I don't like in a year's time - the only way I'll quit the hobby is death or extreme circumstances, because I know that the market is always changing, and as long as I have breath and a gaming group, I'll continue. Eventually new products will come along that excite me, and even if there are NO gamers around (let's say every single one of my gamer friends move away, and nothing's released for a year) I'll still comb message boards, still re-read my old stuff, create characters on rainy days, move on with the other business of life, and re-start myself as soon as opportunity knocks.
Then again, maybe I'm the one who needs help.
I'll be the one in the nursing home, cajoling the other geezers into a game...UniversalMonster
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It just seems ridiculous that the release of a new book- any book-- would detract from an ongoing game.
The rest has nothing to do with Ulrick, just my own experience with the "grief player":
My personal experience with a "grief guy" roleplayer was with a guy who was always complaining that he couldn't find a gaming group that was "into roleplaying". So we invited him. He came to one session. He was an awful, awful, roleplayer. he barely opened his mouth the entire time he was there, and that was pretty much fine because I figured, hey, it's his first time with our group, maybe he's shy. Some people- a lot of people really- need some time to get comfortable.
Then he quit after that first session, and immediately popped up on some other gaming board and was back with some brand new complaints about how real roleplaying groups don't use miniatures. (We used miniatures. I guess thats bad?) Last I checked (a couple of years later) he was posting these long rants about how he was quitting the roleplaying hobby for good! Apparently he had not been in a real game for something like 10 years. His brief foray into our weekly group was probably about it. He mostly hung around PBM sites.
I just find myself just confused and perplexed by this behavior. If we're so wrong, how is it that we still manage to get together pretty much every week and this guy couldn't find a group since he got out of high school in 1994?
The rest has nothing to do with Ulrick, just my own experience with the "grief player":
My personal experience with a "grief guy" roleplayer was with a guy who was always complaining that he couldn't find a gaming group that was "into roleplaying". So we invited him. He came to one session. He was an awful, awful, roleplayer. he barely opened his mouth the entire time he was there, and that was pretty much fine because I figured, hey, it's his first time with our group, maybe he's shy. Some people- a lot of people really- need some time to get comfortable.
Then he quit after that first session, and immediately popped up on some other gaming board and was back with some brand new complaints about how real roleplaying groups don't use miniatures. (We used miniatures. I guess thats bad?) Last I checked (a couple of years later) he was posting these long rants about how he was quitting the roleplaying hobby for good! Apparently he had not been in a real game for something like 10 years. His brief foray into our weekly group was probably about it. He mostly hung around PBM sites.
I just find myself just confused and perplexed by this behavior. If we're so wrong, how is it that we still manage to get together pretty much every week and this guy couldn't find a group since he got out of high school in 1994?
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Jürgen Hubert
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Hand of Evil said:
I'm DMing most of the time. And I'm not interested in modules - I can write my own adventures. What I'm interested in is new material that help me detail the world and jump-start my imagination.
Jürgen Hubert
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The_Gneech said:
Spoken like someone who has never been woken up by a book avalanche in the middle of the night.
What?
maybe
fredramsey
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Ah promises, promises... 
Ulrick said:http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/dndacc/863170000
The first thought that popped into my mind when I saw this was...
"This really temps me to quit the hobby."
HELP
Psychic Warrior
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Really Ulrick saying things like that makes you look very silly.
I think DMG 2 might actually be useful. Certainly more so than the 3.5 DMG was, But since all we have to go on is an 11 line blurb on the WotC website i would say it is far too early to make the sort of knee-jerk reactions you, and others, are making.
I think DMG 2 might actually be useful. Certainly more so than the 3.5 DMG was, But since all we have to go on is an 11 line blurb on the WotC website i would say it is far too early to make the sort of knee-jerk reactions you, and others, are making.
Henry
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No one's looking silly, here.
For some of us, it's just harder to understand why someone would seriously (not hyperbole) quit a hobby if it's not going in a certain direction. Now, if one's group is no longer having fun, and they personally are not, I could certainly understand; but I'd more put up the books a while than drop it entirely - that's just me.
For some of us, it's just harder to understand why someone would seriously (not hyperbole) quit a hobby if it's not going in a certain direction. Now, if one's group is no longer having fun, and they personally are not, I could certainly understand; but I'd more put up the books a while than drop it entirely - that's just me.
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