On paper yes, but can I "program" CN:M to automatically create a 5e fighter when I say I need one.
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On paper yes, but can I "program" CN:M to automatically create a 5e fighter when I say I need one.
Hollow Man
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No, out of the gate it will only create Pathfinder characters. But my point is that there's enough precedent that WotC doesn't force others, who have tweaked the 3.5 SRD for their purposes, to remove them from the market. So it seems if Trapdoor was feeling gutsy they could've simply gone ahead as planned (removing the stuff that was absolutely copyrighted, such as beholders and mind flayers). Of course WotC would be paying attention to them, so I do understand why they may not have wanted to risk it.
-HM
Olaf the Stout
Legend
Regardless of anything else to do with WotC, Dungeonscape, etc., I would be completely shocked if this got anywhere near its goal.
Lone Wolf got $170k for their Realm Works Kickstarter. However, this was a publisher that had produced a successful RPG tool before (Hero Lab), so they had a base of people that had already used their products before and would be likely to back them again.
While some people may know Trapdoor from their work on Dungeonscape, they still don’t have a track record when it comes to RPG tools. So if a well-known publisher in the market can only get $170k in funding, I really can’t see Trapdoor getting 2 ½ times that amount.
Still, I guess you never know until you try.
Lone Wolf got $170k for their Realm Works Kickstarter. However, this was a publisher that had produced a successful RPG tool before (Hero Lab), so they had a base of people that had already used their products before and would be likely to back them again.
While some people may know Trapdoor from their work on Dungeonscape, they still don’t have a track record when it comes to RPG tools. So if a well-known publisher in the market can only get $170k in funding, I really can’t see Trapdoor getting 2 ½ times that amount.
Still, I guess you never know until you try.
Hollow Man
Explorer
As I said in an earlier post, there's no history of them delivering RPG tools, nor any information to be found on The Story Machine, which is their flagship product. So what we have is a lot of talk and promises about what the product is going to be, and backers really have to have a lot of faith they will deliver.
I want to believe, but considering there will be a free version of the product, I can easily wait and see for myself, assuming they get funded. Would I like it to be funded, so I can see if they deliver a product, so I can try it myself later? Sure! But with it at 3% funded at the time I write this, for a product that's primary audience has been aware of it for some time, it doesn't appear to be on track for success.
-HM
I want to believe, but considering there will be a free version of the product, I can easily wait and see for myself, assuming they get funded. Would I like it to be funded, so I can see if they deliver a product, so I can try it myself later? Sure! But with it at 3% funded at the time I write this, for a product that's primary audience has been aware of it for some time, it doesn't appear to be on track for success.
-HM
GMforPowergamers
Legend
just about 48 hrs in (and that is a big important milestone in most kickstarters) and it looks like it is well below what they need.
http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/trapdoortech/codename-morningstar/
current guess is they wont make 1/2 the goal...
Kind of a shame that this is PF now; I've only got time for 5E now, and it scratches my itch well better than 3E/3.5E/PF ever did. I had initially thought it was a smart move on WotC's part to outsource their digital tools, given their track record. Bummer that this relationship didn't work out.
Side note: I bought my 3E Player'd Handbook in 2000, and it came with a demo character builder on a CD that advertised for an upcoming full-service suite of digital D&D tools. Fifteen years later I'm still waiting for a fully-integrated digital toolset that does all what that set promised to do; many companies and competitors have tried, but no one has delivered yet. Given that PF is essentially a variant of that same ruleset (if that matters), can Trapdoor deliver a product--cross-platfrom, no less--that's genuinely as powerful as promised? I'm doubtful, because I've been disappointed so many times in this regard that I've begun to consider full-suite digital tools the holy grail of tabletop gaming products. I don't play PF, but if they actually succeed, I'd buy this product anyway.
Then again, I'd promise to find the holy grail for $425,000 USD, too.
Side note: I bought my 3E Player'd Handbook in 2000, and it came with a demo character builder on a CD that advertised for an upcoming full-service suite of digital D&D tools. Fifteen years later I'm still waiting for a fully-integrated digital toolset that does all what that set promised to do; many companies and competitors have tried, but no one has delivered yet. Given that PF is essentially a variant of that same ruleset (if that matters), can Trapdoor deliver a product--cross-platfrom, no less--that's genuinely as powerful as promised? I'm doubtful, because I've been disappointed so many times in this regard that I've begun to consider full-suite digital tools the holy grail of tabletop gaming products. I don't play PF, but if they actually succeed, I'd buy this product anyway.
Then again, I'd promise to find the holy grail for $425,000 USD, too.
Hollow Man
Explorer
There's probably some scurrying going on right now. At the time I'm writing this, they're at under 350 backers and only 4% funded. This is the first Monday since the project came online, so there should be a flurry of activity as people get into work and do anything OTHER than their work (i.e. reading the news and discovering projects like this). For Trapdoor's sake, I hope they're reaching out to potential private investors, because I think it's becoming increasingly clear that not as much of the community is willing to climb aboard as they had hoped.
But who knows; I'm wrong about a lot of things. Let's see what happens...
-HM
But who knows; I'm wrong about a lot of things. Let's see what happens...
-HM
I'm watching the funding too. They are on track to do 183K right now. I'm hoping they do get a good spike coming in to the first week. But right now they are about 24K behind their daily average to hit 425K. KS is a funny thing. I've seen things sit pretty flat until the last week so I don't count them down and out.
Hollow Man
Explorer
It's possible that they get a lot of pledge increases that last day, from people who are already in, and are trying to make sure that the project funds. But I think they're going to be too far away for that push to make things happen.
I mean, we're talking about close to half a million dollars. That's just a staggering amount of money for the community of this, let's face it, niche hobby, to give to an unproven team.
-HM
I mean, we're talking about close to half a million dollars. That's just a staggering amount of money for the community of this, let's face it, niche hobby, to give to an unproven team.
-HM
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