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Eberron: Rising from the Last War Coming For D&D In November

A new D&D camapign setting has appeared on Amazon -- Eberron: Rising from the Last War. It's slated for November 19th, at $49.99.

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Explore the lands of Eberron in this campaign sourcebook for the world’s greatest roleplaying game.

This book provides everything players and Dungeon Masters need to play Dungeons & Dragons in Eberron—a war-torn world filled with magic-fueled technology, airships and lightning trains, where noir-inspired mystery meets swashbuckling adventure. Will Eberron enter a prosperous new age or will the shadow of war descend once again?

• Dive straight into your pulp adventures with easy-to-use locations, complete with maps of floating castles, skyscrapers, and more.

• Explore Sharn, a city of skyscrapers, airships, and noirish intrigue and a crossroads for the world’s war-ravaged peoples.

• Include a campaign for characters venturing into the Mournland, a mist-cloaked, corpse-littered land twisted by magic.

• Meld magic and invention to craft objects of wonder as an artificer—the first official class to be released for fifth edition D&D since the Player’s Handbook.

• Flesh out your characters with a new D&D game element called a group patron—a background for your whole party.

• Explore 16 new race/subrace options including dragonmarks, which magically transform certain members of the races in the Player’s Handbook.

• Confront horrific monsters born from the world’s devastating wars.

There is an alternate cover for game stores:

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WotC's Jeremy Crawford confirmed that "The book incorporates the material in "Wayfinder's Guide to Eberron" and adds a whole lot more."
 
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doctorhook

Adventurer
From 1E-4E, there were 4 different Psionics systems. They have to reinvent the wheel to a certain extent.

They tested point based, and people hated it.
(I think there were five, if you count the major redux that happened between 3.0 and 3.5, but I take your point.)

There is a huge subset of players who seem to dislike psionics in any form, so I’m not sure they should be catered to. I don’t know much about the playtest feedback WotC received, but it seems to me that 3.5’s psionics system was the most popular, and it’s certainly the model I’d like to see emulated.

Even beyond the points system though, I strongly dislike the name “mystic” (which isn’t evocative of psionics at all, and could describe half of the classes in D&D) as well as the insistence on tying psionics to the far realm. It’s the kind of flavour-rewriting that happened all over 4E and wasn’t popular there either.
 

Parmandur

Legend
(I think there were five, if you count the major redux that happened between 3.0 and 3.5, but I take your point.)

There is a huge subset of players who seem to dislike psionics in any form, so I’m not sure they should be catered to. I don’t know much about the playtest feedback WotC received, but it seems to me that 3.5’s psionics system was the most popular, and it’s certainly the model I’d like to see emulated.

Even beyond the points system though, I strongly dislike the name “mystic” (which isn’t evocative of psionics at all, and could describe half of the classes in D&D) as well as the insistence on tying psionics to the far realm. It’s the kind of flavour-rewriting that happened all over 4E and wasn’t popular there either.
Well, some good news for you there: the Far Realms connection and the name Mystic didn't survive the playtesting, per the Happy Fun Hour. They are going with Psion as the Class name moving forwards.

What they found wasn't that people didn't want Psionics, it's that they didn't want a different casting system. I don't know if you checked out Mearls' brainstorming in the Happy Fun Hour, but the Psion as the big Exception to Concentration rules is actually pretty exciting.
 

Gradine

Archivist
I would happily accept a psionic class does is not "basically arcane magic, but point-based!"

I thought the latest iteration of the Mystic was really interesting, honestly.
 
Well, some good news for you there: the Far Realms connection and the name Mystic didn't survive the playtesting, per the Happy Fun Hour. They are going with Psion as the Class name moving forwards.

What they found wasn't that people didn't want Psionics, it's that they didn't want a different casting system. I don't know if you checked out Mearls' brainstorming in the Happy Fun Hour, but the Psion as the big Exception to Concentration rules is actually pretty exciting.
If you watched Happy Fun Hour, you'd know Mearls is saying he plans to go back to psi points for the Psion and is only using spell slot terminology for ease of creation right now
 

Parmandur

Legend
If you watched Happy Fun Hour, you'd know Mearls is saying he plans to go back to psi points for the Psion and is only using spell slot terminology for ease of creation right now
Well, he said they might depending ion feedback: but they will use the DMG spell point rules, which are identical to slots mathematically.
 

doctorhook

Adventurer
Well, some good news for you there: the Far Realms connection and the name Mystic didn't survive the playtesting, per the Happy Fun Hour. They are going with Psion as the Class name moving forwards.

What they found wasn't that people didn't want Psionics, it's that they didn't want a different casting system. I don't know if you checked out Mearls' brainstorming in the Happy Fun Hour, but the Psion as the big Exception to Concentration rules is actually pretty exciting.
I definitely didn’t hear about any of this, but if true then I’m glad about it! All of it! Hopefully they aren’t going to try to mash all of the different psionic concepts into a single class, either.

I need to follow his Happy Fun Time thing obviously.
 

Parmandur

Legend
I definitely didn’t hear about any of this, but if true then I’m glad about it! All of it! Hopefully they aren’t going to try to mash all of the different psionic concepts into a single class, either.

I need to follow his Happy Fun Time thing obviously.
Not going anymore, but it was a fun show.

He hashed out Psionic Fighter, Monk and Wizard Subclasses, to focus the Psion itself.
 

doctorhook

Adventurer
I don't know if it was the point based system that people hated. The Mystic was just bad - unbalanced, overcomplicated, vague, trying to cram too much into one class.
Good summary of my complaints about it. I thought points were cool, but that’s not really what I liked about psionics. (Although if it turns out that the Psion is just a caster with a different spell list, that’ll be kinda lame in my opinion. I thought the 4E psion was a neat take.)
 

Parmandur

Legend
Good summary of my complaints about it. I thought points were cool, but that’s not really what I liked about psionics. (Although if it turns out that the Psion is just a caster with a different spell list, that’ll be kinda lame in my opinion. I thought the 4E psion was a neat take.)
Still super-Alpha preliminary stuff, but this was Mearls test proposal from the show:

 

Urriak Uruk

Explorer
Reading the Greyhawk debate is so weird, mostly because I actually agree with Lowkey’s underlying argument when I despise all of the logic fallacies, ridiculous comparisons, and bait.

But Greyhawk shouldn’t have a bunch of races lumped in just because the PHB has them. It may largely be a “generic” setting compared to Eberron or Dark Sun, but if you try to mash everything to comply with the PHB, it becomes pretty similar to FR.

And look I like FR, but Greyhawk should remain distinct. Having the same slate of races across settings is just making each setting a little more boring and less distinct from one another.

If Greyhawk ever gets an official book (Big if) they really should stick to what they originally had in the 1980s. That would leave plenty of room to expand lore on the various groups of humans, dwarves and elves. I’d maybe leave a small side-blurb saying tiefling and Dragonborn aren’t native to Greyhawk but that other humanoids like descendants of Iuz and half-dragons are aesthetically similar (and mechanically near identical).

And you can of course do whatever you want in your home game. I’m running Tome of Annihilation now and have a Simic Hybrid player. As fun as that is, if someone put a Simic Hybrid in official FR content i’d be super confused.

P. S. My old account got screwed up in the transfer from old to new site, so I’m not a complete newb on this site.
 

R_J_K75

Explorer
Reading the Greyhawk debate is so weird, mostly because I actually agree with Lowkey’s underlying argument when I despise all of the logic fallacies, ridiculous comparisons, and bait.

But Greyhawk shouldn’t have a bunch of races lumped in just because the PHB has them. It may largely be a “generic” setting compared to Eberron or Dark Sun, but if you try to mash everything to comply with the PHB, it becomes pretty similar to FR.

And look I like FR, but Greyhawk should remain distinct. Having the same slate of races across settings is just making each setting a little more boring and less distinct from one another.

If Greyhawk ever gets an official book (Big if) they really should stick to what they originally had in the 1980s. That would leave plenty of room to expand lore on the various groups of humans, dwarves and elves. I’d maybe leave a small side-blurb saying tiefling and Dragonborn aren’t native to Greyhawk but that other humanoids like descendants of Iuz and half-dragons are aesthetically similar (and mechanically near identical).

And you can of course do whatever you want in your home game. I’m running Tome of Annihilation now and have a Simic Hybrid player. As fun as that is, if someone put a Simic Hybrid in official FR content i’d be super confused.

P. S. My old account got screwed up in the transfer from old to new site, so I’m not a complete newb on this site.
Think mine did too, Im an explorer now, whatever that means, Ive left the village?

Maybe WotC wold do themselves well if they put out a free downloaded-able primers of their IPs such as Darksn, Spelljammer, etc. Pure fluff, mechanics where necessary Theres so much legacy as far as campaign settings are concerned, make the fluff free, sell the mechanics.
 

Urriak Uruk

Explorer
Think mine did too, Im an explorer now, whatever that means, Ive left the village?

Maybe WotC wold do themselves well if they put out a free downloaded-able primers of their IPs such as Darksn, Spelljammer, etc. Pure fluff, mechanics where necessary Theres so much legacy as far as campaign settings are concerned, make the fluff free, sell the mechanics.
This is kind of the format that they used for all the Magic the Gathering settings, I think there are something like five of these released (for free, all you need to do are google “Ixalan Dungeons and dragons” and it should be there).

As great as those free PDFs are though (considering how none of them really have enough material for a full book), I really would prefer if at least the most popular settings like Greyhawk, Dark Sun and Dragonlace get a full cover book.

The smaller settings though like Ghostwalk, if even a PDF was released I would be pleasantly surprised!
 

Kobold Avenger

Adventurer
From 1E-4E, there were 4 different Psionics systems. They have to reinvent the wheel to a certain extent.
There's been more than 4 different Psionic systems between those editions. 2e had like 2 or 3 psionic systems: Complete Psionics Handbook and it's dreaded psychic contact tangents, Dark Sun Revised with MTHAC0 (we really need another THAC0?), and Skills and Powers.
3e and 3.5e also had slightly different psionic systems, 3e tried to preserve psionic combat, 3.5e completely dropped psionic combat and added upscaling to powers (sort of the proto 5e spellcasting as a higher level).

So from 1e to 4e there's been like 8 different systems.
 

coolAlias

Explorer
Never played in Eberron, but I really like the alternate cover art, enough that I'd probably buy it despite not playing or running games in this setting.

Definitely not a fan of the first cover art option.
 

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