Epic Oozemaster

I'm wondering on the Ooze Familiars. Should they be weaker? Should they get an additional bonus for being a familiar since they can't get natural armor bonuses?
 

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Hmmm... Command Ooze needs to be modified I think.... I think it should function at the Oozemaster's unmodifed Charisma score...
 
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drowdude said:
Hmmm... Command Ooze needs to be modified I think.... I think it should function at the Oozemaster's unmodifed Charisma score...

I was considering that. However, the charisma can only get down to 1, so the -5 will hurt but not be to terrible.
 

Crothian said:


I was considering that. However, the charisma can only get down to 1, so the -5 will hurt but not be to terrible.

Well my only qualm there is that it is an Epic feat, and it just seems a bit underpowered to me all things considered...

Also, I dont see where the Charisma Penalty is defined in MotW... maybe it should cap at a 03 instead of 01.
 

drowdude said:


Well my only qualm there is that it is an Epic feat, and it just seems a bit underpowered to me all things considered...

Also, I dont see where the Charisma Penalty is defined in MotW... maybe it should cap at a 03 instead of 01.

I figured a feat that allowed the commanding of Oozes was pretty powerful. The charisma negative isn't defined in the book, the cap of 1 is my creation.
 

Crothian said:


I figured a feat that allowed the commanding of Oozes was pretty powerful. The charisma negative isn't defined in the book, the cap of 1 is my creation.


Well, look at it this way... druids can command plant/animals with 2 non-epic feats each... and I think a Dire Bear or Dire Tiger is equal to an ooze any day of the week ;)

But you may be right... the potential -5 isnt that bad... just makes it less a less attractive feat compared to the rest...
 

drowdude said:



Well, look at it this way... druids can command plant/animals with 2 non-epic feats each... and I think a Dire Bear or Dire Tiger is equal to an ooze any day of the week ;)

But you may be right... the potential -5 isnt that bad... just makes it less a less attractive feat compared to the rest...

It does make it less attractive. What if we take the current Cha of the character, and add the negative to the score. So, a 15th level Ooze master with a Cha of 3, would turn as if his cha was a 10 (3 +7). At 25th level his Cha would be a 1, but he would turn as if it was a 13
 

Crothian said:


It does make it less attractive. What if we take the current Cha of the character, and add the negative to the score. So, a 15th level Ooze master with a Cha of 3, would turn as if his cha was a 10 (3 +7). At 25th level his Cha would be a 1, but he would turn as if it was a 13

Wouldnt it be simplier just to use the unmodifed Charisma score? :p
 
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drowdude said:


Wouldnt it be simplier just to use the unmodifed Charisma score? :p

The oozemaster gives a permenant penalty. So, who's going to keep their orginal score writen down? By the time your 30th level are you still going to have all your original scores as they were at first level with out all the wishes, the level boosts, etc? I figure few poeople will so this way will actually be easier.
 

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