(Episode II) Yoda makes me squeal with glee.

[Ristamar]

Sort of makes you wonder about Lucas' whole "I had the whole nine movies planned out from the beginning" BS, huh? Because Jango is INTEGRAL to the plot. God, it hurts seeing him pull stuff out of his ass.

Actually, the '9 movies' bit is a common misconception. Lucas never had any intention of making 9 movies, or if he did, he never spoke of it. I forget how exactly that rumor got started (other than the fact it originated a long time ago during the original trilogy). I think it was some reporter or journalist jumping to conclusions in a story on Star Wars...

Now 6 movies, on the other hand... that he did have in mind. As for the level of detail in which he had the prequels planned out, I can't really say (in fact, I doubt nearly anyone honestly can, save for George himself). It is fair to say, however, that he had the basic plot in place, at the very least.

 

[Tom Cashel]

Proof that some people just won't be satisfied no matter what

And it bothers me for him to say he doesn't owe anything to the fans, and yet assume that the fans will be there for him opening weekend.

as for lucas not listening to his fans, i'll say it again. HE DOES! the inclusion of jango fett and a young boba is absolutely a tip of the hat to the fans. a huge one, at that. lucas was always mystified at the public fascination with boba, a very minor character in his view. i doubt that without the fan appreciation for boba that lucas would have assigned his father such a prominent role.

Sort of makes you wonder about Lucas' whole "I had the whole nine movies planned out from the beginning" BS, huh? Because Jango is INTEGRAL to the plot. God, it hurts seeing him pull stuff out of his ass.

So, wait...you say he doesn't listen to the fans. That's your beef. Then when someone shows how he DOES listen to the fans, you crap all over that.

What do you want?! Bah, you don't know what you want.

As for Jango being "integral" to the plot:
1. how do you know that? have you read the bootleg script?
2. wouldn't any bounty hunter be just as good?

I too am sick of all the whining. It makes me angry. Angry...and...tired. It's fine for you sourpusses to be all sour, and it's fine for you to sour our "squealing with glee" thread too...but you have to let me be sick and tired of it. And I am.

Oh, I am.

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

So, before you bitch again about Phantom Menace, or Attack of the Clones, go see it with a child, probably male, age 5-9 or so. Then ask him what he thought of the movie (before infecting him with your adult negativity). I bet he loves them both!

I guess by that standard, then, Pokemon: The Movie was the friggin' pinnacle of film-making.


Wulf

 

[EricNoah]

Don't ask me about the theory that Darth Vader is Obi-Wan Kenobi, and Old Ben Kenobi is Anakin Skywalker, because that's the path of madness, but just remember it whenever you watch Episode IV and you'll see the clues....

Oh man, how can I *not* ask now??

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

Re: Proof that some people just won't be satisfied no matter what

So, wait...you say he doesn't listen to the fans. That's your beef. Then when someone shows how he DOES listen to the fans, you crap all over that.

What do you want?! Bah, you don't know what you want.

I already responded above and said exactly what I want. Read it again. I want Lucas to take the movie and the audience seriously. I don't want 'lowest common denominator' films. I don't want films that are cynically and clinically designed to sell action figures to 5-9 year old boys.

It's fine for you sourpusses to be all sour, and it's fine for you to sour our "squealing with glee" thread too...

Oh, I'm squealing with glee, too. I'm certain Ep2 will be better than Ep1; it will probably be better than ROTJ.

But I'm also tired of folks telling me not to take the movie seriously. I'm tired of folks ingoring or excusing the glaring flaws and inconsistencies in Ep1. I'm tired of folks telling me that it's improper to demand excellence of George Lucas, and I am really tired of folks insisting that Star Wars is supposed to be kiddie pablum.

Wulf

 

[RingXero]

The star wars theory can be found here

http://www.mendax.org/article.php?article_id=50

and his follow up/clarifications here

http://www.mendax.org/article.php?article_id=51


Can't believe you haven't seen this before, it's been everywhere


RX

 

[Wulf Ratbane]

That's a hell of a theory... and a hell of a spoiler!

Now I wish I could un-read it, cause that WOULD bring back the Force...


Wulf

 

[Eridanis]

Wow...

Damn, that would be a good story. It would also explain one nagging question for me: how could Anakin and Natalie Portman's character (brain freeze! can't remember name!) be in love enough to conceive a child (actually two), but within nine months be estranged enough that the actual birth happened outside of Vader's sphere of knowledge/influence ("you have a sister!" - said wit true surprise).

I don't think it will happen this way, but it warms my heart to think about it.

 

[Black Omega]

It's an interesting theory with quite a few long long stretches. and bits it ignores.

Darth's comment when he met Obi-wan on the Death Star:

"When I left you, I was but the student; now I am the master."

I can't imagine Obiwan saying this to the punk kid he taught. And since apparently George's original choice for Kenobi was Toshiro Mifune...

It's a cool theory but I doubt it's anything more than that.

 

[JDragon]

My Thoughts (as if anyone cares)

First of all,

I'm looking forward to Ep2, and have tickets for the 12:01am show on thursday morning. (same as I did for Ep1)

I like most did not care for Jar-Jar in any way.

Other than that, it was Star Wars and once again on the cutting edge of technology, much as Ep4 was. It doesn't have the appeal, and never will as Ep4 does for me, but aisde for Jar-Jar was not a bad movie.

I belive that Ep2 will be better than Ep1 and I'm looking forward to it. (but same as Ep1, trying to keep my hopes from getting to high)


As for the theory presented above, its interesting and seems to work and I would have to agree with Wulf that "it would bring back the Force..." for me too.

Omega, regarding your comment about the student/master quote, the article addressed this, as the line says "learner", not "student".

Who really knows how it will go, but atleat it is a better topic than Lucas/SW sucks etc.

JDragon