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Wolfspider said:
The OGL and the d20 logo are two different things. Two different things that almost invariably go hand-in-hand, but still two different things.
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The OGL and the d20 logo are two different things. Two different things that almost invariably go hand-in-hand, but still two different things.
Wolfspider
Explorer
So what? More books will be sold. D&D will live for another year.
So, S&S could use the D20 rules without using the D20 logo?
It'll lack the name recognition of D20 but that shouldn't matter 'cause it's EQ?
Elaborate please. This is very interesting.
DwarvenBrew
First Post
It might actually be a good setting...
One thing that I really liked about EQ is that the evil races actually had cities/territories that they reigned supreme in (ie they weren't all hidden in mountain hide-aways, inpenetable swamps, etc...and occassionally they come out of hiding places to ravage a random town/village).
Ogres, Trolls, Dark Elves and Iskar would hopefully be viable PC races with the fluff to back them up. In EQ, the evil races actually dominate a significant portion of the known/civilized world.
A lot of the different demi-races would also be upgraded, as elves and dwarves aren't neccessarily insular "dying" races, and are competitive with humans in their own right.
Anyways, in concept I thought that Norrath was a pretty cool setting, and personally I think that EQ could be a great setting if done well.
One thing that I really liked about EQ is that the evil races actually had cities/territories that they reigned supreme in (ie they weren't all hidden in mountain hide-aways, inpenetable swamps, etc...and occassionally they come out of hiding places to ravage a random town/village).
Ogres, Trolls, Dark Elves and Iskar would hopefully be viable PC races with the fluff to back them up. In EQ, the evil races actually dominate a significant portion of the known/civilized world.
A lot of the different demi-races would also be upgraded, as elves and dwarves aren't neccessarily insular "dying" races, and are competitive with humans in their own right.
Anyways, in concept I thought that Norrath was a pretty cool setting, and personally I think that EQ could be a great setting if done well.
Wolfspider said:So what? More books will be sold. D&D will live for another year.
So, S&S could use the D20 rules without using the D20 logo?
It'll lack the name recognition of D20 but that shouldn't matter 'cause it's EQ?
Elaborate please. This is very interesting.
I'm not saying it isn't a good thing. I don't like it, but it is a good idea. However, they should be focusing more on bringing in the EQ players rather than current tabletop gamers. We already have a dozen and a half flavors of D&D, another one isn't going to impress me.
As for the OGL, it's nice to see someone actually use it instead of relying on the D20 logo. This announcement is very significant concerning the OGL. We'll bear witness to the first company "testing" the waters.
ForceUser
Explorer
I suppose this was bound to happen.
Some friends and I tried to play a D&D campaign set in Norrath about 2 years ago. We didn't make it through the first session. We were in Befallen and the paladin's player looked at the rest of us and deadpanned "Ok, here's the plan. You all wait here, and I will run up, whack a skeleton, and run them all back here, where you'll be waiting in ambush."
At that point we all just lost it. I think we laughed for about 20 minutes. I cried so hard my face hurt. Then we put the books away and called the campaign a bust. There are just too many distracting, silly EQ (the MMOG) references to be able to seriously attempt an EQ (the RPG) campaign.
Some friends and I tried to play a D&D campaign set in Norrath about 2 years ago. We didn't make it through the first session. We were in Befallen and the paladin's player looked at the rest of us and deadpanned "Ok, here's the plan. You all wait here, and I will run up, whack a skeleton, and run them all back here, where you'll be waiting in ambush."
At that point we all just lost it. I think we laughed for about 20 minutes. I cried so hard my face hurt. Then we put the books away and called the campaign a bust. There are just too many distracting, silly EQ (the MMOG) references to be able to seriously attempt an EQ (the RPG) campaign.
Victim
First Post
How can it be EQ without hordes of people begging for SoWs, ports, crack, etc? Without 30+ people raids? Without first level twinks with better gear than my wizard will EVER have?
It seems to me, that in terms of effectiveness, level 60 probably is about level 20. I wouldn't consider an EQ character first level in DnD till about 4-5th level.
It seems to me, that in terms of effectiveness, level 60 probably is about level 20. I wouldn't consider an EQ character first level in DnD till about 4-5th level.
der_kluge
Adventurer
The OGL is the open game license. By using it, you specify that your product is subject to the terms of Open-Gaming. That is, you designate part of your games content as Open, and thus, freely usable to outside publishers who want to use Open Content, or Content you deem open, or OGC. That's it. Nothing to do with D20.
D20 is essentially WoTC's Open Content. It is the rules that D&D is based upon. And there's a legal definition of what D20 effectively is. So, you could write a D20 product, and in doing so, according to their terms, have to automatically become Open by the terms of the OGL. Unless you are specifically licensed by WoTC like Ravenloft or Wheel of Time was.
I was once a big EQ slut, too. And the world is pretty cool, aside from being absurdly small from a D&D standpoint. I mean, you could cross it on foot in a matter of maybe 2 hours. So, they'd have to increase the scope of the world quite a bit. But it would make a decent RPG.
D20 is essentially WoTC's Open Content. It is the rules that D&D is based upon. And there's a legal definition of what D20 effectively is. So, you could write a D20 product, and in doing so, according to their terms, have to automatically become Open by the terms of the OGL. Unless you are specifically licensed by WoTC like Ravenloft or Wheel of Time was.
I was once a big EQ slut, too. And the world is pretty cool, aside from being absurdly small from a D&D standpoint. I mean, you could cross it on foot in a matter of maybe 2 hours. So, they'd have to increase the scope of the world quite a bit. But it would make a decent RPG.
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