Ever Dream Deity Roleplay(Always Open)

[Jochannan]

OOC: I just got back from a long trip without a chance to access the internet, I've replaced and corrected my earlier post. please read it before deciding on your course of action. Furthermore, you cant create mortals that are beyond the power of the gods..., because they'd have to be gods in order to do that. Now, sheilding them from dying instantly in the presence of Traume, or making it so that their really sneaky and hard to detect is one thing. But making it so that they can't be affected at all no matter what one of us god players says, that's something else. My character, a god, said he was pinned, so he was pinned. You can't just null someone elses posts like that. If you don't want me to just smite the guy if the whim so takes me, you could ask me not to, but really, if we stick to the rules of the game that were set out for us, you can't stop me by saying: 'this mortal is beyond the powers of the gods'

 

[Endovior]

[sblock]Magic_Gathering: Note that NONE of the forges are working quite the way they should be, anymore; the link means that they have to form a system that works together. As a result, instead of draining the plane to power the spells of one being, the Spellforge is now siphoning a part of the energy from the magic plane, and sending it to the mortal plane, to power the spells used by all mages in existence. A side effect of your induced cosmos: it requires induced balance.
Albedo: I'm afraid that Jochannan is correct... barring one possibility, that you have given them your divine power (which reduces your own corrospondingly). This seems to be the case, which means that each of them are, technically, Rank 1 Demigods, whose Divine Power revolves around non-detection and protection. Even so, they can't be totally unaffected by everything... it's just harder to affect them.[/sblock]

Endovior notices the abrupt action about to occur, and he throws up a barrier in front of Albedo's spell. It fizzles harmlessly, killing nothing.

"Not so hasty, Albedo. Those angels are needed now. Fiends exist, and Angels must be present to oppose them. Of course, they need not all be bound to Jo'Karr, nor all following those commands that you find offensive, but you should consider the ramifications of your actions before you simply destroy. Would you prefer if the Fiends were in control? If you slay all the angels, or even most of them, the Fiends will dominate the planes... which would be far more detrimental to the mortals you claim to cherish then any supposed interference by angels. You must learn to find a balance, and not strike blindly against what you see that you dislike. If you do not, you will invariably do more harm then good."

 

[Albedo]

OOC: What I did with Albedo and Alyssa was make a unique creation. While making him powerful against gods, in the same way I made him vulnerable to gods creations, which is why your followers could be overtaken. I made him opposite to that of say..Failure who would have eaten one million mortals for breakfast. If you had read the earlier post, you would have probably had one of your mages bind him instead and that would have worked. Its not powerful, just a different way of thinking of it. And even though you say that you don't have problems with him being hard to find, you still seem to be able to find hin instantaneuosly and even drop an army of ONE MILLION PEOPLE on him. You'd think you wouldn't be able to find him and that he could simply teleport away without being overtaken. Or even that he would not simply smite your Angel before she could sing, cause he saw her coming too. This little discusion on what we can and can't do is a little pointless if nobody is willing to follow any rules. And besides, you didn't really seem to have any trouble adapting to his immunities. Though he won't either. And to Endovior, I didn't say he killed all of the angels, just most. And considering how many angels he had in the first place, there would still be alot left after the spell. That means they would be around equal number to the fiends, and thus they would not be able to exert total control over the mortals.

IC: Albedo's struggling ceases entirely, and his body becomes still. It slowly starts to turn gray, and then disintegrates into a pile of dust.

U-DO turns to Jo'karr, "You seem to be having some trouble dealing with this mortal. Then again, you also seem to have failed to realize what its true nature is. He is not bound to his body like other mortals are. He is a spirit, excisting in ways very few people may understand. I have no doubt he will be back. Though I doubt he will anytime soon. Your angels have been sorely reduced in number, and his quest has already been completed. I will say right now, that he has no bind to me. That goes the same for Alyssa and Xavac too. They are all independant agents."

 

[Jochannan]

OOC: Dude, you don't seem to get what's been happening. Jo'Karr didn't drop a million man army on him, Jochannan did. Get it? The God Jo'Karr, my character, didn't will those people into existence, or command them to attack, I, Jochannan, wrote it that the followers of Jo'Karr rose up of their own volition. Theres a difference. Its the difference between U-Do saying something and the character Albedo saying something. You control both, but the two are not the same characters. In the absence of a DM, we are all DM's to an extent. We all can say this happens or that happens, even if our characters aren't directly involved, or even involved at all. I could say: 'the weather on the third planet is sunny and bright and there are children playing on a hill.' But its not Jo'Karr making it sunny and bright or making the children play there, its me, Jochannan, writing that little bit of story even if Jo'Karr is deep in meditation on the plane of the Undead, completely removed from the third planet and its inhabitants. Get it? Now, I like that Albedo, the character, can't get the difference, that he thinks that anyone who favors Jo'Karr must be Jo'Karr's little puppet, but the fact that so and so invented whatever on whatever planet because he had an enlightening experience is really that person inventing it, just me writing it that way. And as to sensing Albedo, he had just teleported into my domain and started yelling at my servants, even if I couldn't sense him per se, my character had sufficient connection to his home and his angels to know what was going on. And the angels ARE mortals, just really powerful ones who are loyal to their creator. If he's vulnerable to mortals, he's vulnerable to them. Get it? And he may be strong against gods, but you still can't say he just breaks free if he wants to. Now, I do like how you had his spirit get loose, that made sense and added depth to the character, nice touch. Now, if you want to continue to have Albedo wreck havoc with me, thats your choice, and if you want him to still believe in the little 'divine conspiracy of Jo'Karr's interferance', go ahead, but make sure YOU understand the difference between Jo'Karr and Jochannan. Man am I tired of writing in the third person!

 

[Endovior]

ooc: also, Endovior countered that little bout of angel-slaying. Endovior is a Greater Deity, Albedo is, at best, a Demigod. Therefore, Endovior > Albedo... not to mention the favorable conditions occuring, what with Endovior knowing the EXACT technique Albedo was about to use (having personally provided it). If U-DO wants to personally get involved, things will be different. Then it will be Endovior and Jo'Karr vs U-DO & Minions.... and you're still at a disadvantage.

 

[Jochannan]

"Well, that settles that, for the moment. I want to take the opportunity to say to you all, since you are here anyways, that if you have a problem with me, knock on my door and we'll discuss it over a cup of ambrosia. Seriously, I don't understand why everybody who doesn't like me shoots first and asks questions never. The same goes to Allyssa and Albedo, I'm a civilized god, and reasonable when not fighting for my life or the lives of my minions."

 

[periculum]

Tocho lets out a short growl to bring back everyones attention. "Can we proceed? Unless I am mistaken, we are gathered here to work out a system to prevent anihilation of the mortal plane, the first and dominant plane in the cosmos without which the others would be thrown into chaos if not destroyed outright. I've made a proposal which I believe sufficient. If any of you have a better idea, be heard, otherwise I'd like a vote on mine.

Meanwhile, since this meeting seems to require such a small amount of his attention, Tocho simultaneously manifest a second personification elsewhere in the multiverse. He then begins the creation of a plane to call his own, per the various suggestions by the other deities. Tocho builds his realm adjacent and connecting to both the realms of Shara and Traume. His is a wonderful haven of nature, where every type of climate and terrain can be found very close to each other and migrating in their positions. Suffused with positive energy, plants grown 10x as fast and all creatures heal at an extraordinary rate, making conflict difficult especially when to the death. This might sound like a paradise at first, but it's not all jungle and tropical beaches, as said before, all many of climate and terrain can be found including baren tundra, scorching deserts, poisonous marshes, etc. and with their closeness and shifting nature, this is a dangerous place to navigate and live in, one constantly having to cope and adapt with the environment. And then of course you have to attend with the other inhabititants, of which Tocho fills the plane with the hardiest and most fearsome of beasts, great and small. Towering giants and dinosaurs, as well as insects barely visible to the naked eye whose poison kills within minutes. It's, well, home.

OOC: for the record, I dislike Othar's creation of the elemental/alignment planes. makes the cosmology too generic. I liked the natural feel of things beforehand, felt like an actuall mythology similar to Greek/Norse/etc.

 

[Albedo]

Ah, now we are getting to the very root of things aren't we. I did make an error in my previous post. I know it was you Jochannan, not Jo'karr who did the army thing. Now to the point though. You never RPed the army. Now explain to me why they would be there in the first place. Albedo never challenged anything other than angels. He never really interacted with the other mortals. But for some reason, in a very short time, people managed to convince themselves to gather a one million man army together to go fight somebody they never heard of. They have no general purpose, no real point to excist other than to hunt that one man. That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. And to the point of you finding him, I was still on the point of the million man army. The other point I made was you doing things irrationally with Albedo. If your angel started singing before Albedo knew of its prescence, that would make sense. But you walked up to an angel killer without doing something and expected that he wouldn't pull out the bow and shoot the thing before it even got the chance to sing. The same with how your million man army could engage a single man and capture him even though he can teleport whenever he wants to. But, I do know that you changed the army thing because it didn't fit. I'm just using as an example of how sometimes you fail to RP what you as a DM add to the game.

 

[Jemal]

OOC: Dude, you don't seem to get what's been happening. Jo'Karr didn't drop a million man army on him, Jochannan did. Get it? The God Jo'Karr, my character, didn't will those people into existence, or command them to attack, I, Jochannan, wrote it that the followers of Jo'Karr rose up of their own volition. Theres a difference. Its the difference between U-Do saying something and the character Albedo saying something. You control both, but the two are not the same characters. In the absence of a DM, we are all DM's to an extent. We all can say this happens or that happens, even if our characters aren't directly involved, or even involved at all. I could say: 'the weather on the third planet is sunny and bright and there are children playing on a hill.' But its not Jo'Karr making it sunny and bright or making the children play there, its me, Jochannan, writing that little bit of story even if Jo'Karr is deep in meditation on the plane of the Undead, completely removed from the third planet and its inhabitants. Get it? Now, I like that Albedo, the character, can't get the difference, that he thinks that anyone who favors Jo'Karr must be Jo'Karr's little puppet, but the fact that so and so invented whatever on whatever planet because he had an enlightening experience is really that person inventing it, just me writing it that way. And as to sensing Albedo, he had just teleported into my domain and started yelling at my servants, even if I couldn't sense him per se, my character had sufficient connection to his home and his angels to know what was going on. And the angels ARE mortals, just really powerful ones who are loyal to their creator. If he's vulnerable to mortals, he's vulnerable to them. Get it? And he may be strong against gods, but you still can't say he just breaks free if he wants to. Now, I do like how you had his spirit get loose, that made sense and added depth to the character, nice touch. Now, if you want to continue to have Albedo wreck havoc with me, thats your choice, and if you want him to still believe in the little 'divine conspiracy of Jo'Karr's interferance', go ahead, but make sure YOU understand the difference between Jo'Karr and Jochannan. Man am I tired of writing in the third person!

OOC:
OK, so I'ld like to propse that over all that heap of weird posting here's what happened:

Albedo attacks the Forge, Is faced by an army of Angels, Jo'karr (who can't DIRECTLY detect Albedo.. except inside his own realm where he knows all) appears, calls forward his Archangel whose singing brings even the mighty Albedo to his knees, and then chains Albedo.
Albedo ATTEMPTS to to summon enough power to destroy the entire place, but doing so alerts ENDOVIOR (who doesn't detect Albedo, just a very large gathering of destructive energy near one of the unstable Forges), who throws up a barrier around the impending explosion, then peeks in with a little magical eye and sees what's going on.. Then insert his speech about the Angels being needed, followed by Albedo's self-disintegration for later REBIRTH

I like the idea of Albedo being undetectable by Gods.. but not everything he does.. He should be noticable if he does something that DIRECTLY affects someones Domain on a fairly large scale (mass-killing Angels would alert Traume+Jo'karr, a Huge spell would alert Endovior, starting a massive war would alert Tocho, etc, etc)

IC: Jemals eyes open wide as Albedo disintegrates and U-do says he'll be back.
"Back.. you mean that he has died and shall return.. Like Failure, Like the Unded.. Rebirth.."
He grins and glances to Traume "Father, I believe I know how we can handle our problem with power being used by Souless creatures." He chuckles and then turns back to SHara "We may need YOUR help for this, Lady of Life. As for the matter of a Council, I think it is a truly magnificent idea. We as Gods should exist to guide these mortals so we can all better understand ourselves and the universe."

"Now what do the rest of you say to this Council?"

OOC: BTW if this 'rebirth' thing goes through, I'ld like Jemal to get 'Rebirth' as a secondary domain.. it is, after all, what he is based off.. life after death.

 

[Jemal]

OOC: for the record, I dislike Othar's creation of the elemental/alignment planes. makes the cosmology too generic. I liked the natural feel of things beforehand, felt like an actuall mythology similar to Greek/Norse/etc.

OOC: I as well... I'ld like to propose that we NOT use the 'these are the aligned planes' thing.. We're trying to be different here, aren't we? Now so far we have:

Prime
Hell
Neg-Energy/Undead
Nature(? Toccho's.. not sure what it's supposed to be)
Magic/Nexus
Spirit/Heaven(traume's realm)
And a couple I think I'm missing..

I don't want to do away with his suggestions out of hand, but I just simply don't like the way that's taking them.. not to mention that the off-hand creation of a dozen planes requires immense power..

Also, on a more personal level... I HATE the idea of time travel it makes anything done mean absolutely nothing b/c you could just go back and change it If you don't like it!!

Now being the God of Time allready makes you nearly the most powerful god in existance WITHOUT time travel.. I mean you could slow down, stop, or speed up time for anyone! (Except perhaps other gods) Meaning you could essentially do whatever you want in a split second... even things that would take other gods centuries... just by speeding yourself up so fast that essentially time stops for everything else (as if by a semi-permanent time stop)

I don't know, I just think "time" is a way-too-powerful Domain allready without giving Othar access to Time Travel...