Falcon and winter solider

[tomBitonti]

The next episode is up! Some interesting world-building in this episode. The threads of the story are multiplying ...

A little uneven ... I find the transitions from serious to comedic banter to be a little jarring.

Plenty of fodder for continuing the discussions re: discrimination in America. This episode plunges us deep into the issue.

I am not trusting the new Captain America. I have more thoughts, but will give folks a chance to see the episode first.

Thanks!
TomB

 

[trappedslider]

I am not trusting the new Captain America. I have more thoughts, but will give folks a chance to see the episode first.

Thanks!
TomB

I don't like him either...he also needs to get a little closer to his razor next time lol

 

[John R Davis]

Enjoyed. the series will rise or fall dependent on the relationship between F & WS. Nice convos in this episode and i loved the wizard debate

 

[MarkB]

Now that we've been introduced to some of the Flag Smashers I hope we get at least a couple of small flashbacks with them. I really like the concept of a disenfranchised youth who feel marginalised by the returned Unsnapped populations, but currently the weakness of wanting to take things back to "the way they were in the Blip" is that we really have no idea what that looked like aside from a very few short scenes during Endgame that mostly were focused on other matters.

 

[MoonSong]

I am not trusting the new Captain America. I have more thoughts, but will give folks a chance to see the episode first.

I don't know, he seemed genuinely wanting to do good.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

Also, seems that the government kept at the super solider serum and had at least one active during the Korean War.

Yep, his case file and a partial pic of his face are in the closing credit sequence. He is also from the comic books, starting back around 2003.

Also, Screenrant seems to always do a good job of rounding up the easter eggs and other references in the episodes. Lot of good stuff in this one for all of us without deep Marvel lore:

Falcon & The Winter Soldier: Every MCU Easter Egg In Episode 2

Did you catch them all?

screenrant.com

 

[tomBitonti]

I don't know, he seemed genuinely wanting to do good.

I had that response too. But I am thrown off by the "wanting to do the job" comment. There is a mercenary aspect to his behavior that bothers me. Also, "wanting to do the job" ... for whom? I'm feeling that "for whom" could be filled by a lot of different groups.
Thanks!
TomB

 

[embee]

I mean... consider the training accidents. There ain't no ejection seat on those things.

I'm sure that there's a quick release strap.

Of course, then you fall to your death, making it about as useful as the ejector seats in COBRA helicopters.

 

[MarkB]

I mean... consider the training accidents. There ain't no ejection seat on those things.

I'm sure that there's a quick release strap.

Of course, then you fall to your death, making it about as useful as the ejector seats in COBRA helicopters.

In Winter Soldier, after Bucky pulls off one of Sam's wings then throws him off the helicarrier, it turns out that he does have a parachute available as a backup. Which is more than was built into Rhodey's War Machine suit in Civil war.

 

[Blue]

It was at Fort Meade behind a lot of security EXO-7 Falcon

So his current suit is owned by the USAF and in turn the government,just like the other suits. So for a while Sam was in possession of stolen property

His current suit was described as Stark-tech during the cafe scene. And we know he lost the wings in Winter Soldier so it would have to be rebuilt or recreated. It also had technology like Redwing that it didn't originally have. So it's a pretty safe bet that his current suit is not the original suit, and therefore not owned by the USAF.

Yes, I know the wiki only has a single page. But that page isn't doesn't include the recent information that what he has now is Stark-tech. I guess it could be pre-Iron Man, when Stark Industries was selling munitions and weapons of war.