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It’s not about showing up to everything, but certain high profile cases make the list...aka the stuff exciting enough to generate movies and tv shows.
That only applies to world shattering scenarios, and neither TV show featured anything even close to that. And even in world-shattering scenarios, many heroes, such as Bucky, can only travel at the speed of bus. So the chances are by the time they arrive it will all be over.
like with Wanda vision, no one is going to call Dr Strange when an entire town is being rewritten by magic powers? At face value the answer seems to be no.
No one actually has Doctor Strange's number. But there would be no need, as he has the means to detect and monitor situations like WandaVision remotely, and intervene if the world is threatened. Which it wasn't. Doctor Strange's brief is explicitly to protect the world from magic threats. If the world isn't threatened, it's not his job. If the threat is non-magical, it's not his job. His medical training makes him skilled in triage. Often the correct medical decision is to not intervene.
 
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hopeless

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I still think Wandavision's story might have been improved if Agnes was actually working on behalf of Dr Strange's organisation and no one thought anything was wrong until she failed to contact them with an update so one of them went down there only to discover she had been rewritten into her undercover role by Wanda.
That could still be the case if revealed in the movie, but most responses to this believe she's a witch not a sorceror ignoring the fact Dr Strange's group are supposed to be keeping tabs on magical threats and Wanda having a breakdown is a threat!
Just because she'a a witch doesn't mean she isn't affiliated to a part of Dr Strange's organisation they quite probably have their own bureaucracy and red tape to match their real world counterparts!
 

Dire Bare

Legend
Supporter
It’s not about showing up to everything, but certain high profile cases make the list...aka the stuff exciting enough to generate movies and tv shows.

like with Wanda vision, no one is going to call Dr Strange when an entire town is being rewritten by magic powers? At face value the answer seems to be no.

in my head cannon, someone tried and couldn’t get a ahold of him for whatever reason. And done, we move on.

I just assume this happens in every big league issue off camera
Who's going to call Dr. Strange? It's not like he puts out a shingle, "Sorcerer Supreme, Call for Supernatural Emergencies".

The Avengers proper are a government-linked organization . . . but many of our other heroes aren't connected like that.
 

Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
like with Wanda vision, no one is going to call Dr Strange when an entire town is being rewritten by magic powers? At face value the answer seems to be no.

in my head cannon, someone tried and couldn’t get a ahold of him for whatever reason. And done, we move on.
What I understand was that he was informed but late, and was supposed to get there right after it ended. There was supposed to be a end-credits seen with him, but Benedict was stuck in New Zealand due to travel restrictions.
 

Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
Who's going to call Dr. Strange? It's not like he puts out a shingle, "Sorcerer Supreme, Call for Supernatural Emergencies".
It's much more convenient when they are in the phone book.
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hopeless

Explorer
I'm probably in the minority here, but who would you cast as Harry Dresden?
I would have liked the one from the tv series despite some people not liking that.
 

Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
like with Wanda vision, no one is going to call Dr Strange when an entire town is being rewritten by magic powers? At face value the answer seems to be no.

So, who was going to tell him? SWORD? With that idiot at the lead? No.
Monica Rambeau or Agent Woo? They don't know Strange.
Beyond that, nobody knew it was happening.
 

Stalker0

Legend
So, who was going to tell him? SWORD? With that idiot at the lead? No.
Monica Rambeau or Agent Woo? They don't know Strange.
Beyond that, nobody knew it was happening.
I would argue the head of Sword at least for most of the show is not stupid, he's just evil. He's much less of an imbecile than Monica is, who:
  • Who faced with some mystery field surrounding a disappeared town that has clearly mind whammied local police, decides the best idea is to the touch it....then try to move through it, instead of calling for backup.
  • Is on record saying that Wanda's manipulation was "agonizing torture" but still defends Wanda to the rest of the organization....based on some....gut feeling?
  • Finds out that she went through a reality changing barrier, then gets a note from the medic that her "medical signs aren't even showing up"....and just decides to blow it off instead of taking it for the grievously serious news that it should be. Actually that should have been illegal, Monica should have been medically detained at that point...but I digress.
  • Then goes through the same barrier....again! Its only by the power of plot she got super powers and not extreme cancer that killed her in a few days.
In contrast, the head of Sword is on point for most of it. He sees Wanda for exactly what she is....an enemy of extraordinary power who has taken an entire town hostage, and when confronted, shows no remorse and no desire to stop her actions. He uses that drone to take the one shot he's got to take out the terrorist (which Wanda absolutely is at that point)....sure it doesn't work, but against Wanda I mean what would? Sure the guy had an evil agenda, and turned into a mustache twirling villain by the end (which was so stupid....sigh), but honestly for a lot of the show he was right.


Back to contacting the Avengers, Agent Woo knows Ant-man, Darcy knows Dr Selwick that have worked with Avengers and likely have some kind of contact number for at least a few of them. Falcon and War Machine are well known military assets that would definitely have ways to get in touch with them. Or Pepper Potts, surely she has some Avenger contacts in that massive rolodex of hers, and again a federal agency would absolutely have means of getting in contact with her.

So would it require some telephone games sure....and you put one of your hardworking federal agents on that while people continue the investigation....but that absolutely happens.....because when you are dealing with freakin reality changing magic....yes you are going to try and find any expert on the planet....or heck beyond the planet....you can.

But....again in my headcannon, I assume they do just that. There is a poor federal agent in their camp who makes dozens and dozens of calls trying to get a hold of an avenger....and for XYZ reason they just can't....and so the plot moves on.
 
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Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
Having Harry show up in Westview would have been EPIC! :)
That would have been a lot of fun. While the White Counciol has a rather intractible view on mind control, Harry tempers his views with a good deal more compassion. And it's fun watching him try to deal with the moral quandary - always good parts of the books. I would give even odds that it ended up - after some pyrotechnics - with a discussion much like the Visions that ended with Wanda voluntarily in Demonreach.

Okay, I think I've gone over my quota of off-topic, so to bring it back to original sub-topic. When Walker was announced as the new Captain America, which of the established 6-months-post-Blip heroes/characters should have shown up or at least called to congratulate/check out/condemn the new Cap? Because that was likely a worldwide news event.
 


Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
In contrast, the head of Sword is on point for most of it. He sees Wanda for exactly what she is....an enemy of extraordinary power who has taken an entire town hostage, and when confronted, shows no remorse and no desire to stop her actions. He uses that drone to take the one shot he's got to take out the terrorist (which Wanda absolutely is at that point)....sure it doesn't work, but against Wanda I mean what would? Sure the guy had an evil agenda, and turned into a mustache twirling villain by the end (which was so stupid....sigh), but honestly for a lot of the show he was right.
He turned into a mustache-twirling villain before the start of the show when he intentionally antagonized a powerful sorceress* who just returned from the Blip and is in triple grief - killing her beloved, watching someone else kill her beloved, and having the cause for which she killed her beloved fail because she had delayed so she blames herself for all of what happened. Oh, and then lying about it to everyone else and framing her for stealing it. (None of this excuses her - it just paints him correctly from the get-go.)

Sorry, he started stupid, villainous (with the frame) and antagonistic. Just because many of his actions are parallel to what someone who was trying to do right would do does make it any less so.

* Required "Captain America and the Winter Soldier" series reference to keep it on topic. She has no hat and is therefore a sorceress. Thank you Sam for your flexible taxonomy.
 
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Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
I'm probably in the minority here, but who would you cast as Harry Dresden?
I would have liked the one from the tv series despite some people not liking that.
I really liked Paul Blackthorne in the role. But then again, I've loved him in everything I've seen him do!
How about Christian Kane? Maybe a little long in the tooth for younger Harry at the beginning of the series, but he call pull of midwestern slugger to snark to gravitas to action to code-of-morals-that-will-never-break. And can actually play guitar once Lash comes around.
 

I would argue the head of Sword at least for most of the show is not stupid, he's just evil. He's much less of an imbecile than Monica is, who:

Your opinion of Monica has no bearing on whether or not the S.W.O.R.D guy's an idiot.

I feel like much of this was already covered in the WandaVision thread, but a couple of things worth mentioning...
-The SWORD guy causes Wanda's breakdown when he shows her Vision's body. It's his stupidity that causes her pain to go supernova and engulf the town.
-Wanda is not intentionally torturing the townsfolk, it's more that they can feel her pain, that she's radiating grief. (A metaphor for how someones trauma can also be painful for those around them perhaps?)
 


Darcy knows Dr Selwick that have worked with Avengers and likely have some kind of contact number for at least a few of them.
Selvig knows Thor, who is in space, and doesn't own a phone, Nat, who is dead, Tony, who is dead, Steve, who is retired, Clint, who is retired, Nick Fury, who is a skrull, and Banner, who is injured. So, say Darcy overcomes her ego and decided she is out of her depth. She phones Selvig and manages to get through despite the time zone difference. Selvig phones Banner, and manages to get through, despite the time zone difference. Selvig manages to persuade Banner that he is a) needed (even though he isn't), and b) wants to get involved (even though Banner dislikes fighting and knows nothing about magic). Banner hops on a Greyhound bus (because he is too big for a moped now, and couldn't steer anyway with his arm in a sling), and 24 hours later arrives in Westview. Where he finds there is nothing he can science and nothing he can smash.
 

MarkB

Legend
Selvig knows Thor, who is in space, and doesn't own a phone, Nat, who is dead, Tony, who is dead, Steve, who is retired, Clint, who is retired, Nick Fury, who is a skrull, and Banner, who is injured. So, say Darcy overcomes her ego and decided she is out of her depth. She phones Selvig and manages to get through despite the time zone difference. Selvig phones Banner, and manages to get through, despite the time zone difference. Selvig manages to persuade Banner that he is a) needed (even though he isn't), and b) wants to get involved (even though Banner dislikes fighting and knows nothing about magic). Banner hops on a Greyhound bus (because he is too big for a moped now, and couldn't steer anyway with his arm in a sling), and 24 hours later arrives in Westview. Where he finds there is nothing he can science and nothing he can smash.
But to be fair, Banner does know Dr Strange.
 

But to be fair, Banner does know Dr Strange.
So he goes round to Bleaker Street and discovers Doctor Strange is watching WandaVision on Bain's Facimilator.

It's well established that Strange has the means to detect and monitor magical anomalies without having to go there in person.
 

Rabulias

Adventurer
Clint, who is retired
Even retired, Clint was a close friend with Wanda, or at least had a connection. His words convinced her in Avengers: Age of Ultron to join them against Ultron, he was sent to break her out of the Avengers compound in Captain America: Civil War (and she actually used her powers against Vision (!), though her feelings for Vision were just forming at the time), and she and Clint bonded at the end of Avengers: Endgame after Tony's funeral.

As you say, this was not a situation that called for science or smashing, but maybe needed a good friend. Of course, I doubt Darcy or Selvig knew of the bond between Clint and Wanda. Bruce might, but he was away for much of the above. Additionally, Clint is still dealing with his own issues at this time, but it would have been an interesting element to bring in.
 

MarkB

Legend
So he goes round to Bleaker Street and discovers Doctor Strange is watching WandaVision on Bain's Facimilator.

It's well established that Strange has the means to detect and monitor magical anomalies without having to go there in person.
When you say well-established, we've seen him do it once, during his cameo in Thor Ragnarok, and that was when Thor and Loki bampfed directly into New York City.

When magic-using aliens turned up in Avengers Infinity War, he literally had to hear the panicked screams outside the front door to know they were there.
 

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