Falcon and winter solider

[BRayne]

Sam mentioned he had government contracts during the loan scene so he's getting paid going forward but he couldn't get the loan because he has a few months at most of income from that and then nothing since before Civil War (and also yeah racism)

 

[MarkB]

So, the mean banker says that they tightened up the rules for the SBA loans in the wake of the Blip, I wonder what other rules gotten tightened up.

Insurance is probably a serious mess. Would life insurance policies have had to pay out in the wake of the Snap? If so, did they try to reclaim those costs after the Blip? Are there plentiful new clauses providing exclusions for Acts of Big Purple Alien?

The banker's remarks seemed to imply that there were some lingering doubts regarding identity where the Unsnapped are concerned. And even if those are cleared up, chain of ownership is an issue. If you've been dead for five years, your house has probably been resold or repossessed - but if you do manage to get it back, do you need to cover five years of mortgage repayments?

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

Sam mentioned he had government contracts during the loan scene so he's getting paid going forward but he couldn't get the loan because he has a few months at most of income from that and then nothing since before Civil War (and also yeah racism)

The writers and/or directors have said this series will deal some with racism, so it is going to be real interesting how we are able to discuss the show and how that is a part of it without going over the line and breaking the rules here, right @Morrus and @Umbran ?

 

[Umbran]

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The writers and/or directors have said this series will deal some with racism, so it is going to be real interesting how we are able to discuss the show and how that is a part of it without going over the line and breaking the rules here, right @Morrus and @Umbran ?

Yeah, if the show goes there, it can get touchy.

I would recommend folks be very thoughtful of how they address matters here - because if a moderator gets the show spoiled because someone in here can't manage to keep their inner jerk in check... the moderator in question will not be pleased. At all.

 

[billd91]

My guess is he's Hydra

Probably not - and I sure hope not, it's time to explore other sources of conflict instead of "oh, yeah, it's Hydra". If they play it like the comics, Walker will exhibit the negatives of patriotism such as when wedded with excessive nationalism as a counterpart to how Cap exhibited the positives of patriotism wedded with idealism.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

By the way, did everyone pay attention to the backgrounds during the end credit sequence? There were three major teasers/easter eggs:

Spoiler

The name of a villain from the comic books, the Power Broker, and the name of an island from the X-Men comics, Madripoor. were both shown. As well as an image of a blue vial which may be a variation of the super serum.

 

[Imaculata]

I liked the first episode, but I'm not hooked yet. I suspect that much like Wandavision, it will take 2 more episodes to really get rolling.

However, I like the character work in this episode. The big budget action scene that the episode opens with, is really well done. But I find the character stuff way more compelling. Just seeing the aftermath of the blip is interesting. I also find the supporting cast likeable. They did a good job casting Falcon's family.

I suspect the new Captain America is going to be bad news. I'm looking forward to seeing them escalate that, and I'm also intrigued by how the show addresses racism. If done well, this show could become culturally very significant.

I felt another show that tackled racism, Lovecraft Country, really did so poorly. Plus that show's writing went off the rails almost immediately, and its message felt very heavy handed and insincere.

So far, it seems FatWS is more subtle in its depiction of racism. It feels more honest, and dare I say realistic? I hope their character work remains as solid throughout the show, and I hope we get a compelling mystery like Wandavision did. Truth be told, neither Falcon nor Wintersoldier were ever very interesting characters to me. But I'm looking forward to this show changing my mind on that.

Lastly, is that red hand symbol something from the comics that went over my head?

 

[hopeless]

I believe that blue serum is from the Black Widow movie.
That's why I assumed this would come out after the movie rather than Wandavision.
I think that hand symbol is referring to Flag Smasher a villain from the comics.

 

[Blue]

Insurance is probably a serious mess. Would life insurance policies have had to pay out in the wake of the Snap? If so, did they try to reclaim those costs after the Blip? Are there plentiful new clauses providing exclusions for Acts of Big Purple Alien?

The banker's remarks seemed to imply that there were some lingering doubts regarding identity where the Unsnapped are concerned. And even if those are cleared up, chain of ownership is an issue. If you've been dead for five years, your house has probably been resold or repossessed - but if you do manage to get it back, do you need to cover five years of mortgage repayments?

Contracts often have clauses to exclude Force Majeure - natural or unavoidable extraordinary and uncontrollable (by the parties of the contract) events such as war, etc. The Blip would qualify as one of those. Google leads me to believe that it's common in insurance of various types at least in the US but IANAL.

On the other hand "you don't have any work records for the past five years" feels like bunk and racism. We know that by Spiderman: Far from Home (which is still months in the future, but hey) the school systems at the very least have dealt with this. Those coming back seem like they would definitely need help to get back on their feet - even if it was a high risk (so high interest) loans the banks should be salivating at getting all of those and amortizing (is that the right word) their risk over a larger number of high interest contracts.. (IAANAB: I am also not a banker.)

What to do in regards of the identity and property of the those brought back by the Snap is another deal, likely one determined at a governmental level. I really can't see the identity still lingering, as it would affect literally half of the people in your country. I can imaging the property still being undecided because there's people with money and special interests in there as well that can muddy the waters (at least in the US).

 

[Blue]

Just brainstorming, but what if new Cap doesn't suck? Like, we're all set up for him to be bad news, and he very well may not be as Sam Wilson would have been, and even try hard but screw up, but not be a bad guy. I think that there's already a lot of expectations, and we do see Sam with The Shield in the trailer, but I think now that they've set expectations, they could throw us for a loop. (And then potentially double down on the original and throw us for a second loop.)