Feint+sneak attack and imp. feint

[Hypersmurf]

If you lose your dex bonus for the divine retribution attack and you are being attacked by an omnipresent God with the Divine Splendor ability, you cannot make a reflex save to avoid it.

Ah. Not having the Divine rules, I'll take your word for it

I thought you were suggesting a general rule that a character who is denied his Dex bonus automatically fails any Reflex save - I've seen people withthat misconception before, y'see.

-Hyp.

 

[LokiDR]

No the Divine Splendor ability kills all mortals within 10ft per Divine Rank with no save. Being omnipresent (not a normal divine ability) means that no space in existance is farther than that from God so everything dies.

Well damn, there goes my campaign. I guess I had better go back to ShadowRun. I think god is still dead there.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Does it deny your dex bonus to the save?

No. It's why it's almost always phrased as "Denied Dex bonus to AC".

Would it be that broken if I house ruled it that way?

That's up to you to decide.

-Hyp.

 

[Camarath]

Well damn, there goes my campaign. I guess I had better go back to ShadowRun. I think god is still dead there.

I have only used this ability once. I ran an epic campaign once where at the end of the campaign the players bet me actual money that they could beat any God I could make "by the rules" as long as it had less 30 class levels (avarge party level was 60 at the time). I the god I made had 30 levels of Psion and the Permanent Emanation (Antimagic Field/Null Psionics Field) feat. He teleported near the encamped party activated his Antimagic Field and ran up to thier camp (which was less than 200ft in diameter) the entire party died in the first round of combat. Apparently they had not seen the Divine Splendor ability and had heard that epic level characters had nothing to fear from gods after about 60th level. They were wrong and they paid for it.

So some times I taunt them about meeting God. There was also a very humorous incident where a new player, who was playing a druid at the time, strated talking about how God was every where and in every thing (which is simlar to what the player actually believes). One of the player from the epic campaign turned pale when I smiled at him suggestively and strated arguing metaphysics with the the new player. Who became upset when the rest of the group started laughing. The new player though we were laughing at her beliefs. But she found it all very amusing once we explained it to her. Which I was greatful for because it really was very funny.

 

[lokiare1]

Yeah, but I'm talking about the divine retribution attack not the other attack that he has.

 

[LokiDR]

I have only used this ability once. I ran an epic campaign once where at the end of the campaign the players bet me actual money that they could beat any God I could make "by the rules" as long as it had less 30 class levels (avarge party level was 60 at the time).

Ah, the divine rules. The only thing funnier than epic rules. I think they would both work very well for a DBZ game.