Micah Sweet
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That's a good one! Also, he was Perrin's Obi-Wan.Elyas Machera, Ex warder, runs with wolves, stalker, hunter and general all round good guy.
That's a good one! Also, he was Perrin's Obi-Wan.Elyas Machera, Ex warder, runs with wolves, stalker, hunter and general all round good guy.
The Avatar from Ultima IX looked like a middle-aged park ranger. Does that count?Most likely older. Wikipedia's entry on park ranger (Park ranger - Wikipedia) puts in 13th-14th century. The term makes an appearance in Edmund Spenser's Shepheardes Calender in 1579. Tolkien would have at least known the Spenser references, possibly more.
There is also the military ranger . . . military units that patrol, or range, over the landscape as scouts and guides. This meaning seems to have evolved into rangers-as-commandos . . . highly skilled, mobile troops who insert themselves into a landscape for all sorts of missions, including scouting, guiding, ambushing, assassination . . .
Tolkien's ranger, the basis for the D&D class, seems to evolve the word a bit further into solitary soldiers who roam the wilderness dealing with threats to citizens . . . monsters, orcs, servants of the Dark One . . . There's also the elven connection . . . Aragorn and the Rangers of the North were close allies to the House of Elrond and received training there . . .
Rangers aren't survivalists . . . but certainly employ wilderness survival skills in the course of their jobs. They aren't protectors of nature, not really, although modern park rangers might just view that as legitimate aspects of their jobs, and certainly have a reverence and love of nature. They have no connection to druids (IRL) or other "primal" or nature-serving specialists.
I’m working my way through the series for about the fourth time... Two rivers battle is still spine tingling.That's a good one! Also, he was Perrin's Obi-Wan.
It has been an interesting evolution, to be sure. I don’t really see druids protecting nature either, personally. Again, the idea that nature needs protecting is a fairly modern one. In my book, druids worship nature (or nature gods, or nature spirits... to a commoner from settled society, they all look like the same thing). They’re viewed as kooky and potentially dangerous for treating something as wild and unpredictable as nature with religious reverence. You might play a druid with the angle of being the enlightened madman who realizes what he threat humanity poses to nature and does indeed seek to protect it, but that’s not generally their angle.
Fair point.Really? I've mostly ever seen Druids played as protecting nature from civilization. Viewing the establishment of new settlements as inherently disruptive to nature, seeing how armies deforest in order to supply troops, farms being set up where once were a copse of trees, the pollution of cities (cities have been polluted garbage dumps for as long as they've existed), etc, and saying "F no, Imma stand against all of that."
Often that mindset is tempered, but it's still there.
If it weren't fore the special magic, Blood Hunter would make sense as a subclass of ranger, just one that leans more on the 'favored enemy' part than the 'natural explorer' part.I get what your saying, but technically he's a Blood Hunter. But maybe he's multi classed?
Really? I've mostly ever seen Druids played as protecting nature from civilization. Viewing the establishment of new settlements as inherently disruptive to nature, seeing how armies deforest in order to supply troops, farms being set up where once were a copse of trees, the pollution of cities (cities have been polluted garbage dumps for as long as they've existed), etc, and saying "F no, Imma stand against all of that."
Often that mindset is tempered, but it's still there.
The concept of the frontier is key to the 5e ranger. The ranger is on the borderland between "civilization" and the land of monsters beyond. 5e PHB:So who are your archetypal Rangers?