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Final Figures for the 04-05 TV season

Maybe UPN is just following Fox's lead - trying to be one of the "Big Boys" (originally ABC, CBS and NBC) by axing series with fan followings like Brisco County (Fox spent how much pimping the series?) or more recently the Tick ("Armless bandit, give up that bitter black urine men call coffee. Java devil, you are my b!tch.").

Stupid network execs.
 

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Taren Seeker said:
Yeah I have a confession to make.

I don't watch Lost.

I know, I know. Well I watched the first couple of episodes, it seemed pretty good, but with my work schedule I missed a bunch of episodes and just fell out of it. When I came back to it it just didn't have a big draw for me.

I started to watch the first part of the pilot, got dragged away from the TV and never got back to it...
 

LeapingShark said:
Most baffling is Monday Night Football. It's still Ranked #12, yet ABC will be moving it ESPN after next year. I can still watch it there, but they're ruining the tradition!!

That's weird. And alienating that part of their audience who don't/can't afford cable or satellite.... There's probably gonna be gripes about that... probably more gripes than when they had that bastard Dennis Miller on there! :mad:

I don't get to watch most of it anyway due to having to work too early the next morning.. :(
 

Well, there's still going to be a primetime game on normal TV, but on NBC and on Sunday. But yeah, I don't get it, either. Seems a weird move, all around.


Anyway, besides the ratings, Enterprise probably cost a lot more to make than Top Supermodel. Special effects, makeup for aliens, etc.

OTOH, for the model show, all they do is follow around a bunch of models with a camera. Pretty cheap. (That's why networks love reality shows and news shows - they don't cost much to make)

What I find sad, is out of 160 shows on that list, not one is about a ninja or a pirate.
 

trancejeremy said:
Anyway, besides the ratings, Enterprise probably cost a lot more to make than Top Supermodel. Special effects, makeup for aliens, etc.

OTOH, for the model show, all they do is follow around a bunch of models with a camera. Pretty cheap. (That's why networks love reality shows and news shows - they don't cost much to make)

And this would be the critical point.

Ratings aren't what decides what shows go on, how much money they make does. If Enterprise and Top model got exactly the same number of viewers but top model cost 1/3 as much to make it would be considered *vastly* more successful.
Seeing as Enterprise didn't even do that well, it was pretty much doomed.
 

Vocenoctum said:
I wonder how it did in comparison to previous years?

Frankly, I lost track of it at some point and never bothered looking for it.
I think the report said it was down 30% or so from last year. According to TV Tome they've moved it 6 times since it started, which is sad. While this past season was a little weak, it was still head and shoulders above any other sitcom I've seen.

(if anyone has seen the episode with Brendan Frasier's last appearance, you'll understand why)
 

Darth K'Trava said:
That's weird. And alienating that part of their audience who don't/can't afford cable or satellite....

Eh. It seems to me that anyone but the most casual or most broke football fan would have cable or satellite, if only for ESPN, and the 'broke' category is people advertizers don't care about anyway (as they're not going to buy stuff).

On the other hand, the number of games on broadcast TV is staying the same; Sunday Night Football is moving to NBC.
 

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